Dog Club

Another good session at Dog Club this week. I'm so glad I decided to give this a try!

We spent half the time on improving heelwork/looselead walking , which is forming the basis of this block of lessons, which is great for me as I really didn't get this right with her as a youngster as I was struggling to do +R training more or less on my own. In those days I knew what I didn't want to do eg the neck jerks but not how to replace that with force free.
While it is based on "proper" stuff for rally/obedience/heelwork etc it is up to us to decide how we want to fit into our daily lives as long as we are consistent with our dogs . So we have been working on making sure our dogs are engaged with us right from the very first step, and keeping that connection as we go along. I learnt that she quickly disengages with me and that I need to wait while she eats her treat so that she isn't thinking of that while I walk merrily on! I often expect her to do things too quickly.( Maybe a hangover from the first 5 years when she went everywhere at 90 miles an hour? :rofl: )We did various exercises to establish this behaviour. For me the take away thing is to keep the connection and recue after rewarding.
We worked on proofing our verbal cues by choosing 2 behaviours to work with, I picked hand touch which is well established and she loves it - touching my hand wherever I place it is no problem -- she knows that verbal cue. "Loop" is a new one which needs more work.

We finished with middle, taking it forward as a useful game. For me, I've never built up duration and again am inclined to do things too fast!

So plenty to work on in these short December days. I find that she is happily attentive in the class, and happily relaxed afterwards. This makes it better than scent club, after which she was like a dog possessed and really had trouble coming down from the high of the work.
 
We're still enjoying it! In fact barring 1.2.1 s with Helen Phillips, it's by far the most enjoyable training "class" I've ever been to. It suits us both so well, it's not over stimulating for Cass, which I think Scent Club really was, and she loves doing stuff that makes her think. For her age and temperament it is ideal. We have also been working very hard on the issue of self rewarding on walks and this is showing signs of improvement too.

This week at DC we were learning back foot targeting - hilarious! I think she will get it soon - as long that is that I don't ask her to step on anything plastic ! Which I won't. We also worked on targeting the side of their faces using middle.She does make me laugh though, sometimes when I say middle she will walk between my legs , turn round and come back though :rofl:

This week our homework is to get a good "stand" from sit and down.

One small thing is that she has now learnt "loop" to go round my back into heel position just on verbal cue. Like I say very small but pleasing none the less.
 

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We're still enjoying it! In fact barring 1.2.1 s with Helen Phillips, it's by far the most enjoyable training "class" I've ever been to. It suits us both so well, it's not over stimulating for Cass, which I think Scent Club really was, and she loves doing stuff that makes her think. For her age and temperament it is ideal. We have also been working very hard on the issue of self rewarding on walks and this is showing signs of improvement too.

This week at DC we were learning back foot targeting - hilarious! I think she will get it soon - as long that is that I don't ask her to step on anything plastic ! Which I won't. We also worked on targeting the side of their faces using middle.She does make me laugh though, sometimes when I say middle she will walk between my legs , turn round and come back though :rofl:

This week our homework is to get a good "stand" from sit and down.

One small thing is that she has now learnt "loop" to go round my back into heel position just on verbal cue. Like I say very small but pleasing none the less.
That does sound satisfying! I love the sound of loop, and targeting with the side of the face. It’s really lovely you’ve found something that suits you both so well. Three cheers for your discovery! ❤
 

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I love hearing about your training class. I taught Molly and Rajah to stand from sit (in heel position) by luring - treat just in front of the nose. However this didn't work for Tess so I had to rethink. She clearly understood that close meant 'walk in heel position' so I tried saying close and just moving my leg forward as if I was going to step off and she immediately stood (so I could mark and reward). I've gradually reduced the leg movement so it's now just a slight change in weight on my part. So if one method doesn't work with any exercise it's worth trying a different approach.

For Rally you need 2 different 'finishes'. There's 'finish right' which is your looping around behind you and coming to sit at heel on your left, and 'finish left' where the dog pivots back into heel position on your left rather than going around behind you. I no longer do courses with Molly but she enjoys doing a few exercises now and then and these 2 finishes are ones she likes to do.
 
Another good session yesterday -- Cass worked her brain so much she's slept nigh 24 hrs, apart from an hours mooch about in the woods!

We worked a lot on motivation and how to tell our dogs level of motivation, which you think to yourself is obvious but we did some fun exercises to highlight the difference. Varying tone of voice and how we deliver the reward and in what quantity. Then we discussed the 3 D's and did some games around distraction - asking them to perform a behaviour they are solid in (we think!) in the presence of treats on the ground. Mayhem ensued!

For one whose dog has a history of self rewarding from the ground, this is all highly useful. Needs more work, will be ongoing for the rest of her life!

Then we did some stands - well, some of us did! She's coming on really well from sit but from down is still problematic. We were learning to build up duration -- I really have to work hard on this. Finally we are teaching them to go back, we are better at that it seems but only in the early stages.

Our trainer commented at the end how much Cass loves to think about all these things and you can see the cogs whirring! There are only 3 other dogs at present, they are all upbeat characters who love to learn -- even if beautiful notahairoutofplace blue merle collie Roxy always gets everything right and is teachers pet :giggl::giggl:
 
Just back from another session of Dog Club. I nearly didn't renew my subscription as I wondered if we'd reached our limit with the stand cue - which has not gone well! But of course with each new round of classes we go back to basic "life skills" and add to our repertoire as it were, and also new people join. So today we went back to loose lead walking and heelwork using a different game, getting our dogs to be rewarded by our hands with the treat above them and coming down to them in position. I was pleased with Cass as she is well used to playing " catch " on our walks and being a bouncy girl thought it would be great to leap in the air for the rewards. So she had to rethink what she knows and did this well. We made progress with pivot too ! Once we folded up a piece of vetbed and put it on top of the "nasty plastic thing" there was no problem with two feet up and we had fun!

We had to choose 2 behaviours - one static and the other moving and carry out various distracting things ourselves while asking for them to carry out the behaviours. I chose sit and middle, she was challenged by being asked to perform middle whilst I was playing with treats in my hand, but did do it. Interestingly, once I changed the pitch of my voice. But then she had it nailed!
She's done lots of thinking today !
A bit different to last week when we didn't go because Madame Cass declined to get off the sofa! :cwl: To be fair it was a foul day and I wasn't that keen either - it's cold in the training barn - no amount of enticing would get her off said sofa! The message was clear - you go if you want too but I've just got comfy here :sleepy:
 
Absolutely love this
It's great isn't it? I am so happy that we have this to do with her at rising 8 years of age. I've never really enjoyed dog training classes before and if I'm honest wondered why people wanted to train what could be called "tricks". But now I completely get the value of doing so! I'm very pleased I booked on the "trial" sessions and now I'm hooked.
 
@Selina27, I can't believe Cassie is nearly 8 years old! So pleased you love the classes, so good to see the dogs thinking (and the owners!). I really miss the classes. However, if I ever did have another dog, there are no classes around, just scent work and man trailing, a lot of travelling involved.
 
Well, I don't about Dog Club being a mental workout for Cass it was for me today, I'm shattered!

For our warm up we did "million pockets" which is when we put rewards in different places on our persons - eg pockets, where the dog wouldn't be expecting them to come from - and in our training bays, and then ask for a behaviour and mark without them looking at the place the reward usually comes from eg treat bag or left hand. Cass does this really well and gives me eye contact throughout no problem at all.

Then for our tricks part we taught them to turn in the stand and face away from us. It was fun to do and hardwork but I can't think when one would need to do this really . After all, Cass has never been in any doubt that the wider environment is very exciting.

But never mind, for our "life skills" we did recall exercises just in our bays, Not really difficult for her to come away from a plastic cone ( of zero interest to her) and her tug toy, food of course a different matter. So all grist to the mill on the anti self rewarding from the ground front.

Then back to tricks again and "paw", I've never taught her this but she made rapid progress.

So she's had a chew because it's too early for tea when we get home, a large pot of tea for me! She's now fast asleep, having finally had her meal :happy:

I think I will soon be joining her :sleepy::sleepy:
 
Jen, who is our trainer, has started a Podcast thingy, talking largely about heelwork to music, I listened last night as I was preparing supper to episode 2.
Some of you might like it - it's not training geek stuff but the guest is interesting, talking about her life working with the film industry and as a behaviourist, and the positive effect of training in giving dogs a "job" to do.

 
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