Lylas first season..

nayasminime

nayasminime

Hey everyone

Lyla is just under 14 months, and came into season on Tuesday, and just looking for a bit of advice. I've done research and spoken to mum (@Naya ) who has helped a bit.

Lyla started bleeding on Tuesday, and has been absolutely brilliant - been very sleepy, and keeping herself very clean! I've been doing short, regular, on lead only walks, at very unsociable times of the day for the past couple of days. I understand that the bleeding should last between 7 to 10 days and then they are most fertile for the 10 day window after that, so will obviously keep a very close eye.

I'm also checking the garden etc. before I let her outside on advice from mum.

Im hoping someone can give me some advice, or a few pointers /things to look out for regarding phantom pregnancy after the season. With all that Harley went though, I'm pretty clued up on pyometra, but a bit worried about phantom pregnancy to be honest.

I know one thing is that they will start to nest their toys etc. But not sure on much else, so thought it would be best to reach out and ask for advice on what I need to look out for.

Any advice greatly appreciated 😊

P. S. Here is a cute photo of her all curled up napping the other day ❤IMG_20210512_153931.jpg
 
MellowYellow

MellowYellow

Awww, she's lovely! I shouldn't worry too much about phantom pregnancies until it actually happens - it never did with Poppy. It sounds like you are being very responsible and careful - three weeks will go by quickly. Just remember that when the bleeding stops or turns watery at around 10 days, that is when she is most receptive, for about three days, though male dogs will continue to find her interesting until after her season is completely finished. Good luck!!!
 
Sophiedoodle

Sophiedoodle

Location
Fife, Scotland
nayasminime said:
I understand that the bleeding should last between 7 to 10 days
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Bleeding can last for up to 3 weeks, not just for the first half of their season. The colour of the blood often changes to a paler colour around day 10 of their season, but they don’t always stop bleeding then (some do, but most don’t!). Once the blood is much paler, that is when you need to be careful and she will be more fertile and willing to accept a male - this is usually from day 11/12, and can go right through to day 16/17 (this is entirely dependent on the girl as no two bitches are the same so don’t quote me on this! :giggl: )

nayasminime said:
Im hoping someone can give me some advice, or a few pointers /things to look out for regarding phantom pregnancy after the season
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With a phantom pregnancy, you would often get the same symptoms as if they actually were pregnant. This includes going off their food, being extra cuddly, nesting behaviour, and their teats can be more swollen than normal. In some cases, the bitch can actually start producing a little bit of milk (around 7-8 weeks post season), and they can get very anxious and stressed - in this case, it’s best to go to the vet and get something to help calm her down and stop the milk production - we use Galastop if necessary. Hopefully this won’t happen though!

Hope this helps! x
 
Beanwood

Beanwood

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Otter has just come through a phantom pregnancy, it was very tough on her, not so much physically, she was a bit puffy and her teeny nipples become a bit larger, but emotionally she was a wreck!

All bitches will go through the hormonal surges, but not all will go through the behavioural / physical symptoms associated with a phantom pregnancy, so I wouldn't worry too much!

Bitches are attractive to male dogs anywhere between 9 - 20 days depending on their cycle. Generally speaking as @Sophiedoodle has mentioned, discharge changes to a lighter colour or stops when the bitch ovulates. This is the time where I would hesitate even to go on lead walks, as a entire dog will pick up the scent from some distance.
 
Jacqui-S

Jacqui-S

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Location
Fife, Scotland
We generally kept away from popular dog walking areas when Oreo was in season, though did go down the farm track. The only two boys in our area that walk there are escape artists and rarely off their leads anywhere. We checked with their owners and neither were bothered by bitches in season phew.
Mostly Oreo was exercised up at the kennels, safer.
I would worry otherwise.
 
J

Jessica

SwampDonkey said:
I wouldn't be going on any lead walks either. It's causes to many problems for you and everyone else is potentially
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I think it maybe depends on the dog... i was so nervous about Jess coming into season and worried and worried and expected we would have all the neighbourhood dogs at our door - at that time we lived in a house that backed onto a local park that was always full of dogs and i was sure it would be a problem when she came into season. But its never been a big deal really. For the first week or so she gets lead walks if she wants them, then when she is really fertile we try to keep her in the garden only and then we go back to lead walks for a bit until it is safe again. Touch wood, we've never really had any issues. The only times we have had dogs pestering her seriously (maybe twice??) It has been sex pest dogs that have bothered her when she is not in season too :D

(Though we do keep our on lead walks to places where there aren't likely to be lots of offload dogs, in case that isn't obvious)
 
SwampDonkey

SwampDonkey

I just get tired of my walks being ruined by people exercising in season bitches in public areas. It can be unfair on the bitches as they end up getting harassedand frightened and it upsets males dogs. Even after the female has gone the trail left can be enticing and be dangerous for dogs in the area. Twice last week 2 males dogs left their owners and crossed busy roads because an in season bitch had be bought to the park then taken home. How Toby didn't get run over was sheer luck. We can't see it or smell it but our dogs has can and some do react. I live in an urban area with a lot of dogs using the same parks and I have never taken an in season bitch out never mind to the park. If you live in the middle of nowhere it's not a problem but here it shows a lack of respect and concern for your dog and other people's. We also have the added problem of new dog owners who have covid pups. They do not understand what's happening to the little darlings and I have had to explain to worried innocents that they really need to take their terrified maidens home while hanging on to 74 kgs of testosterone fuelled labradors. Its a big deal here and does cause a lot of problems. Most breeders I know don't take the in season bitches out at all and I agree with this in an area like mine. I have to alter my walking routes because of this and so do a lot of friends. It's something a lot of dog owners here feel strongly about even those with neutered males. A local neutered males was injured recently when an in season bitch was being exercised off lead in a busy area in the late morning. The dog mounted the bitch and the bitch s owner dragged him off. His penis was damaged and the bitch was very panicked and upset. I feel very strongly about this
 
Naya

Naya

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Location
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Oj is not walking Lyla in a highly populated dog area and is not taking her anywhere near areas that dogs are walked. With Lyla in season, it’s safer to do on lead walks during very unsociable hours than let her play in the garden at the minute. Lyla is at a much higher risk in the garden due to the proximity of others gardens, fences heights etc. When Lyla stops bleeding Oj will only walk her in remote areas. She’s booked a secure field for tomorrow for example and has explained Lyla is in season to the secure field owner.

I would like to state that she came on here asking about phantom pregnancies and asking for signs to look for, not for a debate about walking Lyla. She’s already spoken to me about it and I can assure you that she’s not stupid and is taking very sensible steps to keep Lyla and other dogs safe.
 
SwampDonkey

SwampDonkey

Sophiedoodle said:
Oh absolutely, I wouldn’t dream of taking Oreo out when she was in season if we lived in a busy town/city!
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It's an absolute nightmare Sophie you are lucky you got access to open country. I wouldn't expect anything else from you you're a considerate kind woman. I just amazed at the way I think of my dogs and how others treat theirs. I've even got one bloke who follows me with his in season bitch he's even bought her to my door saying we can make loads of money. Oh and the woman jogger who runs with her in season bitch it's horrible.
 
SwampDonkey

SwampDonkey

Naya said:
Oj is not walking Lyla in a highly populated dog area and is not taking her anywhere near areas that dogs are walked. With Lyla in season, it’s safer to do on lead walks during very unsociable hours than let her play in the garden at the minute. Lyla is at a much higher risk in the garden due to the proximity of others gardens, fences heights etc. When Lyla stops bleeding Oj will only walk her in remote areas. She’s booked a secure field for tomorrow for example and has explained Lyla is in season to the secure field owner.

I would like to state that she came on here asking about phantom pregnancies and asking for signs to look for, not for a debate about walking Lyla. She’s already spoken to me about it and I can assure you that she’s not stupid and is taking very sensible steps to keep Lyla and other dogs safe.
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I wish everyone here would
nayasminime said:
Just so everyone is aware.. I live on the outskirts of Plymouth, and have access to plenty of countryside where dogs are not regularly walked. If I lived in the city, I would not be walking her on lead.
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you are very lucky that you do and have that option, here is very different
 
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