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Lab_adore

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A staffie attached itself to my first dogs neck and unfortunately OH was away. It was the first time I'd taken him out on my own and the bogan, d!ckhead owner left me cradling my bleeding dog and just walked off. That said, Maxx has a little staffie friend who is well trained and lovely, but other than her I bristle as soon as I see a strange one
 
I don't think its been wrongly gained a Staffies do react differently than a more mild breed in some situations. They play hard too and with some of them you risk your dog being injured in play. Staffy play can he very frightening and upsetting for gentle dogs Its hard to keep Staffies in same sex groups as the do fight. Im not one to listen to stereotypes but from personal experience know to avoid certain dog types. Yes owners are often to blame but some dogs are untrustworthy and bullies. I know how my dogs will react but some dogs go on the offensive at the tiniest thing. Staffies (ones that I know) owners will often say they are great dogs but once they reach sexual maturity they develop this no messing allowed attitude. They are quick to back this up they go from happy to annoyed and bitey quickly. I know a few and most are adorable but they are not the dog for me,. They're fun dogs but they have a edge which I don't like. I find my gun dogs a lot easier to get on with,. They are better with other dogs and don't have this lack of patience and a greater tolerance for other dogs that Staffies often have.
 
Some friends have two labs and their daughter and son-in-law have a staffie which they rescued several years ago. The dogs always got on very well, so my friends would look after the staffie when the owners were busy and their labs would stay with their daughter when they were away. The staffie is very friendly and can be very soppy.

However, a few months ago the family were all having a meal around the kitchen table, with the dogs lying on the floor. Suddenly the staffie gripped the muzzle of one of the labs and wouldn’t let go. The lab had puncture wounds in her jaw, but fortunately no long-lasting damage. Sadly the dogs can no longer be together - it was a horrible experience and too much of a risk that it may happen again.
 

Emily_Babbelhund

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It was the first time I'd taken him out on my own and the bogan, d!ckhead owner left me cradling my bleeding dog and just walked off.
I'm so sorry this happened to you and it really says it all - bad owner. :mad:

I've not had a lot of contact with proper Staffies except years a go a colleague from work showed hers in conformation - he was an American Staffordshire and a big love.

My Mama Jodhi was of course a pit bull probably mixed with Australian Cattle Dog (aka Kelpie) and along with Duncan (Rottie) was the most trustworthy dog with other animals I've ever known. American pit bulls were known as the Nanny Dog for being so good with children through the 1950's and before - "Our Gang"'s dog was a pit bull.

Then they became popular as tough dogs with gangs, getting stuck in videos as symbols of bad-assery and things went worse than south for their reputation.

I've seen a lot of pits through rescue and in the way that treating a chihuahua like a hand bag makes them into snipey neurotic little things, constantly antagonising and yanking on pits will make them bounce at the end of leash and growl. Pretty much any breed will react that way.

Once you get them away from the idiot macho owner, the challenge is channeling all that terrier energy into something positive. Training, trail running...getting their ya-yas out is the key thing, just like any terrier.

As to what they were bred for, one pit bull rescue person explained it to me like this: yes, some were bred to go for other animals. But they also had to never ever turn on their human owners. So you get a dog that at heart is extremely loyal literally to their detriment. Even dogs who were actually bred for dog fighting can come out and not be fighters.

For some really amazing and uplifting stories about what happened to Michael Vick's dogs (an American football player who ran a horrific dog fighting ring) have a read: These Were Michael Vick's Fighting Dogs. Where They Are Now is Beautiful.

As a side note, most people think that Rottweilers were bred to be human protection or fighting dogs. Nope. Their name in German is 'Butcher dog" and not because they killed anything. Their traditional use was as flock guardians, cattle herders and once the cows were slaughtered for market, drove dogs (pulling the meat cart to market).

Brogan was rescued from a dog fighting ring (or rather his mum was) so it could be argued that he was from a long line of dogs bred to fight, even if that wasn't the traditional job of Rotties. He and his fellow littermates all went on to become family dogs and of course as I'm always proud to spout, Brogan passed his Mobility Service Dog certification with flying colors. :giggle:
 
I actually don’t mind staffies. They can be sweet little things but I think they’re very much for people rather than other dogs.

3 people quite close to us have them. My best friend has Dotty who is a dream, absolutely gorgeous dog. Happy to go for a walk with Stanley but will tell him in no uncertain terms when he oversteps the mark.

Another close friend has Buster who is quite defensive. He would never bother another dog but if one gets up in his face he would tell them - how far he would go isn’t known but I think a VERY firm telling off. We’ve never put him with Stanley but I’ve walked him before and I would never label him aggressive.

Then you have Ellie, my BIL’s staffie who is just vicious. She’s not to us and I can sit and stroke her and she could come across as a big softie but she would make it her business to eat any other dog she saw. And if an unknown person went to stroke her she would bite.

She’s bitten a bulldogs ear off once. (actually wasn’t her fault the bulldog ran up their drive where Ellie was in the back garden behind a gate).

She’s walked on the streets, with the biggest harness and lead I’ve ever seen at unsociable hours and only OH’s brother dare walk her. I will never let Stanley or my child be around her. (Side note - OH’s brother has 2 small children, and she’s never been anything than fine with them).

She is part of the reason I don’t believe that it’s down to bad ownership, because she was taken to puppy classes, she was very loved and has certainly never been encouraged to be nasty. OH’s brother is really sad about it. Same as owners of nervous dogs or anxious dogs - it’s usually not something that the owner has done, it’s just something within the dog. Same as with people.

I think one of the main problems with staffies is the size of their jaw. They don’t bite any more than any other breed but when they do, it’s going to be extreme.
 
They don’t bite any more than any other breed but when they do, it’s going to be extreme.
Yes, and they don’t let go. The only way my friends managed to get the staffie to release its hold on the lab’s muzzle was by lifting it up by its hind legs - not something they wanted to do, but nothing else worked. :(
 

Boogie

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I’m scared of Staffies after the attack on Keir - I thought she was never going to let go. :cry: We walked to the vet with his snout dripping blood onto the ground all the way. It was awful. Keir bounced back and was fine afterwards with all dogs, even Staffies. But the incident left me traumatised, I give them a very wide berth and never let my pups play with them.

I feel sorry for the owners who say ‘she’s very friendly’. I have to reply ‘I’m sure she is but I’m afraid of Staffies due to a bad attack on my last pup.’

:(
 
It made me feel like this. I don't let any boxers near Rory he's been very badly effected by the attack on him. He's allowed near some dogs but some I just look at them and think no no you're trouble and give them a wide berth.
 
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