Gundog training for senior dogs???

Just an idea I'd like to run past you guys...

As you know I give a dummy training class once a week, for intermediate stage dogs (beyond beginners, but not open class). I thought I might offer a class for senior dogs who still love to do a bit of retrieving work, but who cannot manage the distances and pace we ask of the younger dogs. I know several people who have older dogs they would love to bring to my weekly class, but who really can no longer manage the more challenging tasks.

I am thinking of offering an easy-going class, with maybe five or six dogs at a time, with a few nice simple retrieves, a fair amount of searching, and a few memories and simple blind retrieves. No heavy-duty ground cover, no jumping over ditches or fences, maybe a splash through a nice stream or easy retrieve from shallow water... We could meet up once every couple of weeks, or whenever the weather is good (not too hot, not too cold or windy, not pouring with rain etc). These dogs don't need training, they all know their job; it would all be about them getting exercise and us all having an enjoyable time, with the 'oldies' getting to do what they love best.

What do you think? If you have a senior retriever, would you go for a class like this?
 
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HAH

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Devon, UK
I think this is a super idea, and would suit a number of older dogs I know. I hope that when Kipper's muzzle is grey and his joints have had a good bit of mileage we can find a fun class like this to cater for changing abilities & priorities.
 
I think it's a great idea! My only reservation might be that the dogs might not find it challenging enough? Just that my lot thrive on the more difficult stuff, and get bored with short or easy retrieves - and they've not had a lifetime of retrieving that I'm sure some of the dogs you're talking about will have. You know these types of dogs FAR better than I do, though, so I'm sure you'll be able to make it fun for them without being too physically taxing.
 

Emily_Babbelhund

Mama Red HOT Pepper
Sounds like a GREAT idea! :happy:

I don't know gun dog training, but I know I would have loved general obedience/easy agility/tricks classes for Brogan when he was older simply because we both loved taking classes and also missed the social aspect.
 
Alice will be 12 in a couple of months time and I still take her gundog training. But I agree with @snowbunny, simple retrieves would bore her to tears. She might not be quite as fast as she once was in her youth but experience more than makes up for that. And she still is a bramble basher par excellence, so easy cover also doesn’t cut it for her. Tricky when they had a long working life and have seen and and done it all.
 
Hmmm... that's interesting input @Heidrun and @snowbunny. I shall have another think about it.

The two older dogs who sometimes come to my class are a 12-year-old border collie, and an 11-year-old labrador. Both of them are crazy retrievers, both of them LOVE dummy training - both of them are finding it more difficult due to various age-related issues. If they are in a class with the younger dogs, I have to adjust the tasks accordingly for them (the border collie is deaf, and her eyesight isn't too great!!! And the labrador, while she works with great enthusiasm, is just slower and tires more quickly), but both of them are sooooo happy when they can come to training.
 

Jacqui-S

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Location
Fife, Scotland
It's great to think of the older/less able dogs. Similarly, with obedience classes, having older dogs sit and wait (usually in the damp) is just as much of an issue as the younger dogs who are impatient to do things.
 
Just an idea I'd like to run past you guys...

As you know I give a dummy training class once a week, for intermediate stage dogs (beyond beginners, but not open class). I thought I might offer a class for senior dogs who still love to do a bit of retrieving work, but who cannot manage the distances and pace we ask of the younger dogs. I know several people who have older dogs they would love to bring to my weekly class, but who really can no longer manage the more challenging tasks.

I am thinking of offering an easy-going class, with maybe five or six dogs at a time, with a few nice simple retrieves, a fair amount of searching, and a few memories and simple blind retrieves. No heavy-duty ground cover, no jumping over ditches or fences, maybe a splash through a nice stream or easy retrieve from shallow water... We could meet up once every couple of weeks, or whenever the weather is good (not too hot, not too cold or windy, not pouring with rain etc). These dogs don't need training, they all know their job; it would all be about them getting exercise and us all having an enjoyable time, with the 'oldies' getting to do what they love best.

What do you think? If you have a senior retriever, would you go for a class like this?
Yes, I would, most definitely. Older dogs still love retrieving and training.
 

Beanwood

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I think it's a great idea! :) Casper would love it! Gentle yet stretching retrieves, hunting for snipe dummies in long grass. Combining with a bit of balance, muscle group work for example front paws up, back paws up...stretching (cookie stretch to mobilise back..).
 
I think it's a great idea! :) Casper would love it! Gentle yet stretching retrieves, hunting for snipe dummies in long grass. Combining with a bit of balance, muscle group work for example front paws up, back paws up...stretching (cookie stretch to mobilise back..).
Yes, and my physiotherapist is offering a short 'Warm Up, Cool Down' seminar, that I am going to organize. I am sure we will incorporate a lot of what she teaches us into this class!

Well, I've spoken to a couple of people here, and they seem very enthusiastic. I'll wait until the clocks go forward, so I am a bit more flexible with time and not just limited to the weekends, and then will go ahead with offering this course. Thank you very much all for the input! Any more ideas, let me know!!!
 
I often lay a trail for my dogs to follow by dragging a dummy or cold game through longish grass. They love putting their noses to the ground following the scent. The more multiple turns and changes of directions the better as far as they are concerned. The sense of smell will still be strong in an elderly dog even if their other senses are slowly weakening. All of my dogs love this game.
 
I think people are very motivated by fun competitions once in a while.
This is a good idea, and there are working tests that are specifically for senior dogs. I was thinking it would be a good motivator to encourage participants to sign up for one of these - maybe we could work towards it as a group and sign up together - I could accompany them, if they wanted. That would really be good fun.
 
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