Lambies for Joy please.

Candy

Biscuit Tin Guardian
The practice where the specialist vets are is closed until Monday, so I'll contact them then. In the meantime here are a few photos of a little Labrador on her morning walk who looks as well and happy as ever. Of course, she had her Librella injection yesterday, so maybe it was the pain from her arthritis affecting her, rather than her eyes. Whichever it was, she doesn't look to me like a dog who needs to have her eyes removed!20260131_114331.jpg20260131_114156.jpg20260131_114356.jpg
 

Emily_Babbelhund

Mama Red HOT Pepper
Pee Ess, getting on and off a train with a blind dog is something I'm currently trying to muster the courage for.
She may very well surprise you! Brogan went deaf about 2 years before passing, but also lost most of his sight in his last six months or so. The hearing loss didn’t bother him one bit, and I only realized about the sight loss when I caught him sniffing unfamiliar steps. He was using his nose to figure out where to put his feet! This included tasks like getting on and off public transport.

I know Joy’s amount of sight may be very different than whatever Brogan’s was, but just to give you some hope that your traveling days may be far from over and she may handle the train like a pro despite her sight loss. ☺
 

Emily_Babbelhund

Mama Red HOT Pepper
If there are no better options than removing her eyes, then so be it, but I need to know I've tried everything.
I like the idea of a second opinion too. :hug:

While eye removal may make logical sense, there’s a lot of emotion in it. It would be different if Joy had come to you without her eyes. Of course it wouldn’t have bothered you as she would have always been that way. However when you’ve spent her whole life with her with her eyes, I’d think it would be a hard adjustment. Not for her - dogs just get on with it! But for us, it’s got all this baggage of mourning something lost.

So for all that, big YES 👍 on the second opinion for your own sake.
 

Candy

Biscuit Tin Guardian
Sorry @Candy I didn't mean to be insensitive about the train - I guess I think you are pretty amazing with her and would find a way if necessary xx
You did go by train fairly recently didn't you?
You weren't at all insensitive about the train! All I meant was it's something I need to try out with her, as much for my confidence as hers. I am actually planning to try tis fairly soon, have just been waiting for slightly better weather, so it's not slippery underfoot.
 

Candy

Biscuit Tin Guardian
I like the idea of a second opinion too. :hug:

While eye removal may make logical sense, there’s a lot of emotion in it. It would be different if Joy had come to you without her eyes. Of course it wouldn’t have bothered you as she would have always been that way. However when you’ve spent her whole life with her with her eyes, I’d think it would be a hard adjustment. Not for her - dogs just get on with it! But for us, it’s got all this baggage of mourning something lost.

So for all that, big YES 👍 on the second opinion for your own sake.
Yes, Emily, this is exactly it! I keep thinking 'It's all very well for the vet to say that she won't miss her eyes, but I will!'
 

Candy

Biscuit Tin Guardian
The more I think about it, the less sense it makes. She obviously still has some residual vision, in that she's more likely to bump into things in the dark than in the light. I leave lights on in the house more now than I used to, as she has twice missed the bottom stair coming down in the dark and she now won't go out in the garden after dark without the outside light on. To take her eyes out gives her no chance with the little residual vision she still has and if there's a way we can prevent any discomfort from her eyes without removing them, that's the way we'll go. I keep thinking that probably hoomans don't have their eyes removed for similar problems, but maybe I'm wrong. My neighbours were horrified when I told them, and agree that she can still tell light from shade. Will be ringing the specialist vets tomorrow.
 

Candy

Biscuit Tin Guardian
She's already lost most of her vision due to the Progressive Retinol Atrophy, which was diagnosed last year. The vet we saw at the time mentioned her cateracts but said there was little point in removing them, as this wouldn't improve her sight. I'd like to speak to him again, now that she has this additional problem and see what his thoughts are.
 
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