Lambies for Joy please.

Candy

Candy

Biscuit Tin Guardian
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West Yorkshire, UK
The appointment with the vet went really well. I asked if we could try the examination without sedation as she's so good I thought it probably wouldn't be necessary, and I was right, she was a complete star! Anyway currently the Glaucoma should be treatable with twice daily eye drops, so that's what we're doing. Eventually due to normal progression of the condition she might need to have her eyes removed, but this is unlikely to be for five to six years, which as the vet kindly put it 'Is a long time in dog years'. She will have to go back for reviews every three months, which is fine. I've come away very relieved! A friend feels I should perhaps put a complaint in about the vet who made it sound as if the only option was to remove both eyes, which I feel is a fair point, however the specialist vet will be sending them a report, with a copy to me, so I'll have a look at that and decide where to go from there. What does everyone else think?
Anyway, we're home safe and sound, currently pain free with all eyes still where they should be, enjoying a Kong and a glass of wine in celebration.
Many thanks, everyone, for your kind support through this. :heart: :clap::* ( not forgetting the Lambies, of course!)
 
Candy

Candy

Biscuit Tin Guardian
Location
West Yorkshire, UK
Just to add, thanks also for your excellent suggestions, they helped me to focus on what I really need to know and yours in particular Harriet was very clever, using the term 'What, in your clinical judgment?' seemed to make the vet very happy :giggl: and that's when he mentioned that when the Glaucoma is very advanced, to the extent that pain relief is no longer effective, it would be kindest to remove her eyes.
 
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SwampDonkey

Candy said:
The appointment with the vet went really well. I asked if we could try the examination without sedation as she's so good I thought it probably wouldn't be necessary, and I was right, she was a complete star! Anyway currently the Glaucoma should be treatable with twice daily eye drops, so that's what we're doing. Eventually due to normal progression of the condition she might need to have her eyes removed, but this is unlikely to be for five to six years, which as the vet kindly put it 'Is a long time in dog years'. She will have to go back for reviews every three months, which is fine. I've come away very relieved! A friend feels I should perhaps put a complaint in about the vet who made it sound as if the only option was to remove both eyes, which I feel is a fair point, however the specialist vet will be sending them a report, with a copy to me, so I'll have a look at that and decide where to go from there. What does everyone else think?
Anyway, we're home safe and sound, currently pain free with all eyes still where they should be, enjoying a Kong and a glass of wine in celebration.
Many thanks, everyone, for your kind support through this. :heart: :clap::* ( not forgetting the Lambies, of course!)
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Oh thank goodness. ❤
 
HAH

HAH

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Location
Devon, UK
Candy said:
Just to add, thanks also for your excellent suggestions, they helped me to focus on what I really need to know and yours in particular Harriet was very clever, using the term 'What, in your clinical judgment?' seemed to make the vet very happy :giggl: and that's when he mentioned that when the Glaucoma is very advanced, to the extent that pain relief is no longer effective, it would be kindest to remove her eyes.
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It’s often handy isn’t it to have a few ideas to bounce around, it helps get to the nub. And I like that term for sharpening the focus! I think people like to hear it too, which doesn’t hurt ;)
 
Candy

Candy

Biscuit Tin Guardian
Location
West Yorkshire, UK
HAH said:
It’s often handy isn’t it to have a few ideas to bounce around, it helps get to the nub. And I like that term for sharpening the focus! I think people like to hear it too, which doesn’t hurt ;)
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Exactly! Having worked as a mental health nurse for many years, often advocating for people with dementia and their families, I found a little bit of timely flattering of a Consultant Psychiatrist's ego using similar phrases went a long way towards getting what I felt was most needed. Once you'd reminded me of that I slipped back into it with no problem at all!:rofl:
 
HAH

HAH

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Location
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It also sounds a bit like the start of an assessment from training days - “in your clinical judgement, would x always lead to y?” - so it keys into those deeply ingrained ‘correct’ ways of doing things that would stand scrutiny. Maybe the softer version of ‘can we record that decision in the clinical notes?’ 😁
 
Candy

Candy

Biscuit Tin Guardian
Location
West Yorkshire, UK
HAH said:
It also sounds a bit like the start of an assessment from training days - “in your clinical judgement, would x always lead to y?” - so it keys into those deeply ingrained ‘correct’ ways of doing things that would stand scrutiny. Maybe the softer version of ‘can we record that decision in the clinical notes?’ 😁
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Yes, used that one too, in my time! :cwl:
 
Selina27

Selina27

Location
Herefordshire, UK
@Candy , this is good news, I'm so pleased the consultation went well and left you feeling relieved and positive. Well done @HAH for fine advice .

Candy said:
A friend feels I should perhaps put a complaint in about the vet who made it sound as if the only option was to remove both eyes, which I feel is a fair point, however the specialist vet will be sending them a report, with a copy to me, so I'll have a look at that and decide where to go from there. What does everyone else think?
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I think that raising this with the vet concerned could have a positive outcome - whether "complaint" is the right word I'm not sure but I guess it's probably just the process. But ideally it would lead to the professional concerned reflecting on their practice and becoming more aware of what is said, and maybe how it's said can have a negative effect.
Because really, in my opinion, the best thing would have been to discuss a second opinion with you there and then.
 
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Atemas

Atemas

UK Tour Guide
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North Cambridgeshire
Candy said:
Anyway currently the Glaucoma should be treatable with twice daily eye drops
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Excellent news. So pleased you had that second opinion.

Selina27 said:
I think that raising this with the vet concerned could have a positive outcome - whether "complaint" is the right word I'm not sure but I guess it's probably just the process. But ideally it would lead to the professional concerned reflecting on their practice and becoming more aware of what is said, and maybe how it's said can have a negative effect.
Because really, in my opinion, the best thing would have been to discuss a second opinion with you there and then.
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Yes I agree with this. Without feedback, how can one learn? I am a great believer in constructive criticism kindly given
 
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