Living with Poppy - 07/11/21

David

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Breakfast
Do you enjoy your breakfast? I used to be able to read the paper while I ate my bowl of cereal and had a couple of cups of tea. Then along came Poppy.

Lady was a very laid back dog in the mornings; even during the puppy years. Her morning greeting was a waggy tail delivered from the prone position in her bed. We'd have breakfast then paddle out for a walk and Lady would have her breakfast when we got back. Pops, the new girl on the block is so much a different dog. The morning greeting is delivered half way up the stairs as I come down and includes much wagging of her whole body really. She then wants to go out for a wee and a pooh in the garden with me in tow whatever the weather (mental note made of where the latter has been deposited). Breakfast follows - going down the little red lane in about 30 seconds flat. If I get distracted from my duties as number one slave delivering food I get nudged, bumped and bored; sometimes including her bringing her bowl.

Peace at last to have breakfast. No! I get about half way through my bowl of cereal when a succession of toys are presented and are dumped in my lap. That's generally followed by my wellington boot socks. Then the bumping and boring starts! Aaargh! Paw, nose bump, growl, more nose bumping getting quite hard until I give up, shout up the stairs to OH that I'm being bullied and have given up - I'll meet her in the field. I'm then supervised while I get all the gear on and out we go.

She's lovely really but the bullying is a bit trying and showing a quite different character to Lady. When we'd paid for her and the transfer from Surrey Police was complete I was able to get a copy of her pedigree from the Kennel Club. She's actually got a good gundog background with the majority of her ancestors being FTCs. I think this may go some distance in explaining her very high drive - certainly much more pronounced than Lady. Lady was pretty easy to train but Poppy is much more difficult - not because she's thick, but more a factor of her interest in everything else that's going on. I'm looking for a good gundog training outfit at the moment with a view to getting a bit more organised in that area in the new year when Pops is a bit more mature.

Pheasants
This morning we discovered pheasants for the first time. Poppy has already discovered rabbits, but when we've been walking the hedgerows she hasn't been able to track down the other interesting scent until this morning. She picked up a scent and this time worked her way into the hedge and out popped a big cock pheasant. She's very quick and pretty much kept up with him right across the large field we were in and then came back at top speed and sat looking for a treat! Hillarious really. From then on she was flushing pheasants left right and centre with huge amounts of excitment.

So on the plus side I can now do a bit of dogging-in on our local shoot. On the down side she's really out of control at the moment in that area so very much a work in progress.

Oh! Did I mention I've lost a lot of weight recently?
 
She sounds very clever @David, have you looked on the Gundog Club website for a force free trainer near you?

She's so much like Cassie, (I'm sorry, I probably say that everytime) who also has a working background, although she is very laid back in the morning and in the house in general. I get what you mean about being interested in everything that is going on once outside though.

It's lovely to read about Poppy.
 

David

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She sounds very clever @David, have you looked on the Gundog Club website for a force free trainer near you?
I hadn't looked at the Gundog Club because of some minor history with the people who run it but looking for a local positive trainer should be ok. I'm actually already registered with them but haven't been active since, well, this forum emerged.

She's so much like Cassie, (I'm sorry, I probably say that everytime) who also has a working background, although she is very laid back in the morning and in the house in general. I get what you mean about being interested in everything that is going on once outside though.
My previous dog, Lady, was adequate at picking up I guess, and that really all that was needed. We worked reasonably well together as a team and she knew what was wanted pretty much without any input from me, but there were always a few faults. For example I never really cracked stopping her from running in. She did OK and marked birds well as they flew over and she was first class at finding lost birds or pursuing runners out of sight, but she didn't have the full-on confidence and drive that Poppy has.

I was watching Poppy root about in a field on the walk this afternoon and she stood several times and scanned the horizon for movement. Unless we were out on a shoot, Lady never really did that - it was all nose to ground stuff. Poppy does use her nose a lot but eyesight seems to be also right up there and she takes an interest in everything that moves. Bearing in mind that she's been trained as a detection (sniffer) dog, scent-wise she hadn't much of a clue about finding a lost ball in the grass by smell, or hidden in plain sight kibble in the garden for a hunt the kibble game. I had to teach her how to do that and she's now grasped the idea and is really good at remebering where she dropped the tennis ball and then tracking it down by scent!

Ian, her trainer and tester as a detection dog said he didn't think she'd be any good as a gundog because she lacked concentration because she was more interested in playing with her tennis ball (reward when working) than keeping her mind on the job in hand. I'm hoping she was actually still too juvenile when he tested her and if he'd been able to wait a few months (which he couldn't) she would have been ok.

I'll find a trainer after Christmas when Poppy is coming up to 2 years old and see how we get on. The trainer is of course to train me how to train the dog! I need, first, to decide what I'm really looking for. With Lady it was to end up with a steady and well mannered dog but we ended up picking up together and we enjoyed that. If Poppy was able to come out with me as a companion on the shoot that would be fine. Any other skills would be a bonus.
 
That’s a lovely update, David. It‘s definitely made me smile!

Poppy’s character sound a bit like Tuppence’s, who is also working line. I do get to eat my breakfast, as by the time I’ve managed to sort it she’s given up all her shenanigans and gone to her favourite sofa for her post-breakfast nap.

However, as soon as she’s aware that I’m getting up she barks when she thinks it‘s time I was downstairs. She then makes a beeline for the door to where their food is kept, whereas Wispa will demand a fuss first. When she’s finished her breakfast and checked Wispa’s bowl she’s ready to go into the garden to check on the wildlife’s activity, then when we go back indoors she waits by the treat cupboard for her reward for coming indoors. She then goes off in search of something she shouldn’t have, so that when she decides to ‘drop it’ she (and Wispa) get another treat. She’ll try to repeat this while I’m trying to get my own breakfast, throwing things at my feet or generally being a trip hazard, eventually giving up if I ignore her.

Oh, and she’s got Wispa trained to follow her round and wait for the treats that she’s earned for her.

Tuppence is now eight, so a bit of focus for Poppy sounds like a good idea if you need a bit of peace in the mornings!
 

Candy

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When my GGJ was a pup, also a young dog I used to fondly remember reasonably relaxed breakfast times......OK, maybe not reading the paper, but at least able to have a slice of toast and a couple of cups of tea without interruption, as I'd had with previous dogs. Not the case with Joy though! No! Bolt your breakfast, get the boots on and let's get out and about NOW (please)! Now however, at the grand age of four (and for at least the last two years to be fair,) she is as good as gold, so maybe just bear with it for a while. I'm sure that with your kindness and experience she'll turn out to be a super little dog, just like my girl is now!
 
I hadn't looked at the Gundog Club because of some minor history with the people who run it but looking for a local positive trainer should be ok. I'm actually already registered with them but haven't been active since, well, this forum emerged.
Ah, right.

Poppy does use her nose a lot but eyesight seems to be also right up there and she takes an interest in everything that moves.
Yep, Cass too.

Training classes were a nightmare, she had more interest in the other dogs and general larking about. Dummies in plain sight were definitely there for laughs. (Which is why I'm so thrilled she enjoys retrieving now)

But put her in a high game environment she is totally focussed on the job in hand.
 
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