Some people are too proud.

Boogie

Boogie

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Manchester UK
They train their dogs well then get too proud.

I was walking into the park this morning when a woman got out of her car. Her labradoodle was off lead and dashed across the road to see Spencer. My heart was in my mouth, it’s not a busy road but cars go fast up there and the park is on a bend.

I said ‘I’d put your dog on the lead until you are inside the park, I was worried for her then.’ We walked along and chatted - turns out she’s a dog trainer. Her doodle was a delight, very well loved and well behaved.

But why did she do that? I can only think it was pride in a super well behaved dog.

:unsure:
 
HAH

HAH

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Location
Devon, UK
Also not very fair of her to allow her dog to greet Spencer without permission? I’d agree that was pride. Really hope she doesn’t come acropper, and understandable on the scale of hooman weaknesses, but it does skew judgement and can lead to bad decision making...
 
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Aitch

Location
Buckinghamshire UK
As you say, just too proud and it came back to bite her. My dogs, like most dogs, will have an off day now and then when all training just goes out the window. Just recently they all decided to just run off and not recall. It was in a safe place thankfully but it reminded me that they are dogs, not robots and they will misbehave sometimes.
 
Shaz82

Shaz82

Location
Essex, U.K.
I think we all probably get a little complacent but this is plain stupid.

My nephew did this with his dog and it ran into the path of a car and was killed.

But maybe she hasn't trained it to wait in the car.
 
Boogie

Boogie

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Manchester UK
HAH said:
Also not very fair of her to allow her dog to greet Spencer without permission? I’d agree that was pride. Really hope she doesn’t come acropper, and understandable on the scale of hooman weaknesses, but it does skew judgement and can lead to bad decision making...
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To be fair, round here, every dog greets every other dog - so that’s not unusual at all :)

When Spencer is in uniform it’s a different story of course - no greeting at all.

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Charlie

Charlie

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Argyll & Bute, Scotland
Aren't all Labradoodles a delight and very well trained! :nod: Hattie is but I would never trust her or any dog 100% in those circumstances. I see it every day people walking their dogs off lead along the main road etc. makes me shudder. They think they are clever, I think they are stupid. They don't give a seconds thought to the oncoming dog that might not like other dogs, might be poorly or a hundred other reasons, or to the owner trying to keep their dog under threshold at the sight of these dogs and keep them safe. Every owner I meet that behaves this way puts my training with Charlie back, makes my blood boil :angry: x
 
Beanwood

Beanwood

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I was reading recently on a fb group, about a dog getting badly injured when he got hit by a car. I think (from memory...) it was a fairly quiet lane, and the dog bolted for some reason. Luckily the dog will be OK, but the wrangle and distress, not just with the dog, but insurance, the car owner...is fairly unpleasant, and confusing. For both parties involved. The dog was very reliable as well. When I was reading I thought of @snowbunny's tickbox for learned behaviour...if you can guarantee a certain behaviour 100% of the time...would you bet £100 on it? (Or something like that!)
 
snowbunny

snowbunny

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Andorra and Spain
Beanwood said:
When I was reading I thought of @snowbunny's tickbox for learned behaviour...if you can guarantee a certain behaviour 100% of the time...would you bet £100 on it? (Or something like that!)
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Mine is to do with adding a verbal cue - you only do this when you would gamble £100 on the dog performing the behaviour you're after. It's still never going to be 100%, though - it will always be a gamble :)
 
Jacqui-S

Jacqui-S

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Location
Fife, Scotland
I would say that the staying in the car after a "cue" is the most solid one we have for Lilly. Maybe along with waiting before given the release for her brekkie/dinner.
Even with another dog in the rear of the car, who does not know our cue, If we give the "stay" cue, which is a flat of the hand up to the rear window, Lilly will stay until then release with our "on you go" cue.
Car parks even in woody areas can be some of the worst places to have a dog off lead
 
alschwahn

alschwahn

Location
United States
After Aspen bolted on me once he is always on leash outside of any area not fenced in. He is trained to stay in the car until I cue "OK" but even then my hand is on the leash. My various neighbors never have their Labradoodles, Boxers, or Pomeranians on a leash and I constantly hear them yelling for their dogs to come back. One day Sadie the Labradoodle ran across our street to go to a mother walking with her two young children. I had to shake my head because A: the mother was frightened by an unknown dog running up to them and B: our street constantly has cars racing up and down it. I would never trust my dog to do so!
 
Emily_Babbelhund

Emily_Babbelhund

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Regensburg, Germany
kateincornwall said:
If you Google , Trust , a deadly disease , you will see how actions like hers are so potentially dangerous . Sam was a consummately obedient dog, but even so , he was on lead to cross a small lane to the woods because we simply never know , a brave or foolish person would trust their dog 100% . xx
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I was the same with Brogan. Never off lead on roads. There is no 100% trustworthy, even for humans. Weird stuff happens and really quickly, too. :(

@Boogie , I bet the lady today was more rattled than she let on and just covered it up well.
 
edzbird

edzbird

Location
Isle of Man
Coco is trained to "wait" in the rear of the car, Meg(an) Sparkle is learning. I would not trust them 100% and they are, therefore, tethered by a long lead.
 
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