Well it's Sunday and she caught me..... I had the boo hoos again. I'm having such a terrible time with him he has no connect with me he hates me. I usually do the positive stuff but just said yes its been like that for some time and I have noticed your lack of connection. He won't come near her now and was ignoring her today, attacking her others dog and chasing joggers. She said he was sulking because she'd given him a proper telling off. My thoughts were..... no hes keeping away from a source of pain discomfort and upset. He does not trust you your are boring and a source of pain. You never spend fun special time with him never do anything fun.no he is not your friend but you were never his. I saw Bo Bo and his owner so Iver played and she went away. It would be pointless saying anything she would not listen. She's not learned in 2 years she's still being an idiot with him.
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- Thread starter SwampDonkey
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Atemas
UK Tour Guide
- Location
- North Cambridgeshire
Poor poor dog - what a horrible life he has - deeply upsetting
- Location
- The Hague, The Netherlands
Some people just do not deserve to have any dog.
You have dog people (like everybody on this forum) and you have people who have a dog.
Just very sad @SwampDonkey
You have dog people (like everybody on this forum) and you have people who have a dog.
Just very sad @SwampDonkey
It's terrible and when how see how happy relaxed and bonded my dogs are it just throws it into sharp relief how unhappy he is.
Candy
Biscuit Tin Guardian
- Location
- West Yorkshire, UK
So sad. What a miserable life that poor poor dog must have.
Joyless, not your Joy obviously.
She also told me he doesn't like to come into the house he prefers to sit on a bench in their open conservatory type thing they have on his own away from them.
- Location
- Malvern Worcestershire
Poor little lad, obviously scared of her. It is so very sad, wish I could have him. Would she consider rehoming? I can't bear to think of this poor little loveless soul.
Candy
Biscuit Tin Guardian
- Location
- West Yorkshire, UK
Poor boy. When I think of all the fun and companionship and love that a relationship with a dog can bring to dog and human it makes me so sad for him.
She got me again this morning. So I've mailed her the tuff e nuff website and told her to look at their Training ideas and toys. They are fun and teach a dog it's fun to stay close and play. They also redirect behaviours she might get it.
It annoys me she needs to learn how to be nice to dogs and her fundimental approach is wrong. Just wrong
It's Sunday and traditionally collie woman gets me. I managed to avoid her for a while but she got me. It took her 3 hours to catch him with her husband last night they were on the park from 6.30 to 9.30 pm. She's very unhappy. I was very clear today I'm not putting up with it anymore. I told her everything she had tried is wrong for him and she needs to stop being angry with him. She needs to stop doing what she's doing and try something different and kinder I went through all the things that influenced him and how the adversives she has used have contributed to his unhappiness and worse Chasing behaviours. He's s very unhappy dog his whole body language reflects stress and nervousness. I tried to explain how when he's stressed he chases and enjoys the relief and fun of the chase and when he attacks her other dog it's just stress coming out in a different way. He's not a mean dog just bored and unhappy. She again said he has no bond with me and I said no he doesn't. You are not a safe place for him you are no fun he never looks is at you. He self rewards constantly and does not understand recall. I also told her how reluctant I was to help as the good Training tips I given had been ridiculed by her and her other friend.she acknowledged this and apologised as she now understood how I had tried to stop his reluctance to be caught. I thought it really brought home to her as R&I sat next to me interacted with me and listened to me throughout and E stressed and fretted and did not look relaxed. I don't think it's helped i don't think she gets it but it's just not my problem. I don't have the patience or energy anymore. I tried to be as kind as possible but I just want to shake her. I'm continually learning getting better at understanding my dogs she seems stuck on old ideas and my other dogs never did this.
- Location
- Malvern Worcestershire
Well done for trying, with luck not all your advice will fall on deaf ears and you may be helping the dog, which is the most important thing. Poor dog needs rehoming.
Lisa
Moderator
- Location
- Alberta, Canada
The whole thing is so very sad. 
It was discussed again today I think it may come to that unless she has an epithany.
- Location
- Isle of Man
I wish, wish, wish you got through.
I think she wants to move on but I can sense her reluctance, it means work a lot of work and letting go of old ideas. It means her way has not worked. I can feel her stuckness and the wanting to grasp the idea but just not wanting to move. I want her to say its since I used the electronic collar isn't it. She kept saying something's happened to him and I kept pushing so what else happened when he changed. What else? Willing her to get it. Maybe she did but didn't want to admit it to me
So often pride (and the flipside, guilt) are the strongest barriers so hopefully your words and sense will be getting through to her. It’s just heartbreaking for the dog.