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She's had an epiphany. Finally. She got a trainer a local collie trainer and she's set her on a better path. She got her to film him. The trainer has told her he's so nervous and stressed he going to bite someone and that she is misunderstanding his behaviour.. The trainer has given her a training program and explained a few things. She wants his stress reduced and his shock collar has gone along with his head collar. All adversive training techniques are gone. Calm walking and encouragement are in. I just hope she keeps it up.
 

HAH

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She's had an epiphany. Finally. She got a trainer a local collie trainer and she's set her on a better path. She got her to film him. The trainer has told her he's so nervous and stressed he going to bite someone and that she is misunderstanding his behaviour.. The trainer has given her a training program and explained a few things. She wants his stress reduced and his shock collar has gone along with his head collar. All adversive training techniques are gone. Calm walking and encouragement are in. I just hope she keeps it up.
That is such promising news Swampy, and I can’t help but think that your persistence will have helped to a greater or lesser extent; it may well have made her more receptive to help.
 
It's been sad to watch as he's now become so stressed he's become very lead reactive to just about everything. He's even had a go at Iver twice. My dogs ignore him and I am very careful around him. He can't even urinate or eat on his lead. He looks so unhappy. If he gets off his lead he runs away and is uncatchable. I can't see this ending well she's not really getting the point and is not listening to what the trainer told her. I think he will bite someone I don't go near him. I'm keeping my distance. She asked me if I thought he'd be able to go off lead again and I just said no I don't think it will be safe to do so. She's ruined him he'll never be the dog he could have been.
 
I think I'm a cold hearted bitch because this morning I've had sobbing tears and no dog and I was not particularly "oh there there". I wondered if she'd got rid of him but no he's at home because she can't cope with his lunging pulling and aggression. He's hurt her back and he's not responding to her at all. He's actually a lot worse I've avoided him as much as possible. I don't trust him with my dogs. Basically she's expecting to do things once or twice and it all be fine. She getting a lot of agro at home and no support. I talked to her and said you can rehome him but you need to find a trainer when they can see him after lockdown and get a good assessment first. If walking on this park is causing issues stop using this park. Take a step back and don't do it because this is the way you always have. I was very straight pulled no punches. People often take the piss out off me because I am so careful and particular but I do things for a reason. I explained to her that this was a problem that started when she bought him home. Her lack of early management led to this so she needs to start again as if he's a rescue. Build trust and love not fear and resentment. He's a nervous boy. He needs to be understood better.
 

Emily_Babbelhund

Mama Red HOT Pepper
Barring a miracle (i.e. the woman changing her ways immediately and working long and hard to repair what she's done), this poor dog needs a new home. But so much freaking damage that it would be a needle in a haystack to find the right person to take him on. It's such a waste because it didn't have to be.

And you're not a cold-hearted bitch. I think you're amazing for not punching her in the face and then asking how she likes being taught with aversive techniques?
 
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