Getting desperate!

Are you sitting comfy with a box of tissues?

Is anyone else having real trouble with crate training? 😰 Or am I on my own with it? He’s ok as long as I don’t shut the door then he creates merry hell, no matter how many times I sit and do the treat through the door then shut it etc. As soon as I stop giving him food he starts. It can’t just be me surely? he’s nearly 9 weeks, I’ve been trying a week to be honest (now I feel a bit stupid actually) I’ve fed him in it, I’ve give him frozen kongs in it, I’ve sat in front of it with him chucking bits in for him to find. Im doing what the books say and he’ll go straight in it, takes himself to bed when he’s tired and sleeps in it through the day and at night.....as long as I don’t shut the door
The crate is in a playpen, so it’s not that important right now to be able to shut the crate door, but he does exactly the same when I shut the playpen door, even if I’m in the same room eating my dinner or mopping the floor, or just tidying up etc, if he’s asleep in his crate I can pop out for a smoke and he doesn’t even move or look up, if he hears the door shut that’s his cue to scream the house down, at night I turn the light off, pop him at the door of his crate, he goes in and lays down and goes to sleep, I silently shut the playpen door and creep out of the room and upstairs, don’t hear a peep till he needs the loo (or realises that I’m not there, not certain which) . But during the day it’s a nightmare

I’m worried, I go back to work next Monday, I really don’t want to leave him screaming the house down but I can’t leave him unsupervised in the room, that’s why I bought the playpen so he would have his crate and some extra space to play or wee if he needed to, and he wouldn’t be confined in the crate while I’m at work, the maximum time he’ll be in the crate is 4 hours at a time, I’m meeting a puppy visitor on Tuesday morning with plans to get her to come in at 10ish for half hour, then I’ll come home from work at 1-1:45 then I finish at 3:45, so the longest stretch will be between 6 & 10
I dont have any friends here where I live, feeling totally lost to be fair.
I think I’m overly anxious about getting him comfy in time to go back to work, it’s making me feel physically sick worrying about it 😧 and to be honest I just dont know how to fix it
 
Welcome @Georgesmum from me, Hattie 11 years and Charlie 8 years. I'm definitely no expert on crate training. If it is just the sound of the door shutting could you associate that sound with a super high value treat, chicken, sausage etc.? Repeat a few times and do this throughout the day? Also George is a tiny baby so maybe you are expecting a little too much too soon, you are also anxious because you're going back to work. Hang in there someone will be along with great advice, some puppy owners on the forum at the moment. xx
 
Hi and welcome to the forum . So sorry that you`re feeling so desperate , but please take comfort from knowing that most of us have also run the gauntlet of a puppy and all the chaos , upset and damned hard work they bring with them ! Just something to try , could you have a radio or TV playing in the playpen area, not in it but very close by , so that this might desensitise him from the noise of the pen being closed ? I find that pups take comfort from noise , it makes them feel secure, so please give it a try if you haven't already done so . My puppy is almost five months old now and in a routine , but your little one is still a baby and as such , he will cry and take some time to get into the swing of things , good luck x
 
Just to add , when you leave him , be very matter of fact about it , don't hang around , just close and leave the room , lengthening your stay away each time . Another thing to bear in mind is that dogs , even at puppy stage , will pick up on stress and upset .I know its hard , I`ve had moments of wondering what I had done , but try to be relaxed around him , you relax, he will too . Keep the faith, it gets better, honestly x
 

Boogie

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My Gypsy did this. I dealt with it by sitting right next to the gate of the pen and letting her shout. I knew she was safe and she could see I was right there. I completely ignored her and read a book, no words, no eye contact. At first it took her some time to settle, but it wasn’t long - a week or so - before I only needed to wait by the gate for a minute or two.

Welcome to you 🐾🙂
 

Atemas

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Welcome @Georgesmum. I didn’t have the crate door problem but I did have the problem of leaving the room when Red was tiny and in her crate. She would cry. I left the room for a few seconds then returning and giving a treat, gradually making it longer returning when she stopped crying for a moment and treating. It was really hard work, took about a week but it did work.
 

Lab_adore

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Welcome @Georgesmum from Maxx and I in Sydney, Australia. This time last year Maxx was 12 weeks old and we had been through hell with him. We nearly gave him back to the breeder but luckily found the wonderful people on this forum. It gets better quite quickly - honestly. Hang in there and before you know it you will have the best friend you could imagine
 
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Welcome @Georgesmum from me and Buddy.
We didn't have a problem closing the crate door, but to echo what others have said, we leave the radio on if we are going out and gradually built up time that we were leaving the room for, and treating/returning only when quiet. Buddy is now 17 weeks old, he settles better if he is tired/been for a walk before which I know you maybe can't do yet. Maybe try a game in the garden or some training to tire him a bit before putting him in? We are also still working on it, e.g. I put him in crate while I go upstairs for a shower or while I am working in another room. Hang in there, it will get easier x
 

HAH

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Devon, UK
Welcome @Georgesmum from me and Kipper. It’s great you’ve found us and don’t apologise at all for your post; I completely understand how anxiety-inducing having a puppy can be. Its great your mum is mucking in, so often just a trusted voice of sanity can help to bring a bit of relief. Others’ advice on little George's crate whining is really sound, give it a go and let us know how you get on.
It will get easier, we promise :) and in the meantime we’re all here to share the tears and cheers along the way!

When you have the energy do head over to the Welcome thread and tell us a bit more about you and George; also we LOVE seeing photos ;)
 
Hi and welcome from me and Rory. It's seems hard now but it will get better they grow and develop quickly. We've all been through tough puppy stuff and it does get easier honestly.
 
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