Librela - a new option for pain relief for dogs with osteo arthritis

Saying this with great caution, but I think I have seen a small but definite improvement (now day 14 post injection). I've walked Monty on his own for the last two days, and I would say:

- no change in his odd gait (he tick-tocks along) but a slight increase in speed
- he tended to walk in front of me rather than behind.
- A little more sprightly and more inclined to canter rather than trot or walk short distances.
- Roamed a bit further from me than usual
- Has become a little deaf :)
- Slightly more interested in playing tug with Bear
- Tried to hump another dog (first time in nearly two years, I think)
- More alert / on his feet for the last two evenings.

Nothing major, but I'd say maybe a 5-10% improvement if I had to put a number on it.
 
That is sounding rather positive.
I love the selective hearing part. I bet if you crumpled paper he would be there in a shot!
Is he still on the pain meds or have you stopped? Pain meds can make them feel flat and less alert.
I'd almost say he's been a little norty! going over to neighbours he normally ignores and trying to get in their house!
No, we stopped pain meds on the day he had the injection. Apart from Tuesday when he knocked his leg and was limping for a few minutes. I gave him one tramadol just in case, and he was absolutely fine within a couple of hours so not serious at all.
 
I'd almost say he's been a little norty! going over to neighbours he normally ignores and trying to get in their house!
No, we stopped pain meds on the day he had the injection. Apart from Tuesday when he knocked his leg and was limping for a few minutes. I gave him one tramadol just in case, and he was absolutely fine within a couple of hours so not serious at all.
Been reading your thread as my old boy is having a Librela jab on Thurs. He has been on Carprieve for several years to help with elbow dysplasia and it's worked pretty well. However as he has lost muscle tone in the hind legs the fronts have taken more stress (I guess) and the front lameness is now profound and adding Tramadol hasn't helped. Hoping for some positive results with the new drug and taking some strength from your posts. Will keep posting with results.
 
Hi Chris,
Welcome to the forum.
We had the third Librela injection on Friday, He managed quite a decent walk on Saturday but then less on Sunday. At hydrotherapy on Friday our physio said that one of his hips was definitely more stiff - the opposite one we had through, so it's a case of the better legover compensating for the worse leg, a bit like you describe @Chris.
I mentioned that it seemed like Librela may be having similar results to a daily Meloxicam dose - which was good, but not amazing. The vet did say that there were other new drugs similar to Meloxicam we may want to try too, (so I assume a NSAID but with less disruption to the kidneys / liver) so when we go back for injection no. 4, I think we might try another painkiller in conjunction with the Librela rather than a return to Meloxicam.

I've not heard of Carprieve @Chris but a quick google says it's Carprofen... let us know how you get on after Thursday, there still doesn't seem to be that many dogs on Librela so I'm intrigued to hear how others are finding it.
 
Hi Chris,
Welcome to the forum.
We had the third Librela injection on Friday, He managed quite a decent walk on Saturday but then less on Sunday. At hydrotherapy on Friday our physio said that one of his hips was definitely more stiff - the opposite one we had through, so it's a case of the better legover compensating for the worse leg, a bit like you describe @Chris.
I mentioned that it seemed like Librela may be having similar results to a daily Meloxicam dose - which was good, but not amazing. The vet did say that there were other new drugs similar to Meloxicam we may want to try too, (so I assume a NSAID but with less disruption to the kidneys / liver) so when we go back for injection no. 4, I think we might try another painkiller in conjunction with the Librela rather than a return to Meloxicam.

I've not heard of Carprieve @Chris but a quick google says it's Carprofen... let us know how you get on after Thursday, there still doesn't seem to be that many dogs on Librela so I'm intrigued to hear how others are finding it.
Hi Natalie, Thanks for your reply. We don't have experience of many pain killers because the Carprieve has coped with it successfully for last few years (plus Yumove since Smithy was 6 months old). Now at nearly 12 things are starting to go pear shaped and we have added Tramadol to the Carprieve (tried Previcox instead of the Carprieve initially but didn't seem to do anything). I'm interested in your hydrotherapy. We are doing it in a tank with a treadmill, not actual swimming - is that what you do ? I do feel swimming might be more beneficial and tempted to take him to a nearby river and try some - Smithy not a great fan of water so could be interesting ! I'm hoping for a miracle cure but he is 11 and three quarters so a big ask :(
 

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I'm interested in your hydrotherapy. We are doing it in a tank with a treadmill, not actual swimming - is that what you do ?
Our hydrotherapy is in a pool and our therapist thinks this is best.
However, those who use the treadmill think theirs is best.....and that they can monitor gait, maybe manipulating it (but not sure how) to work on specific muscles.
 
Ours is in a treadmill too. We were told years back by a surgeon that this was better for elbows than free swimming as the elbow movements were much more controlled on the treadmill, and we might risk further injury if he swam out of his depth. Monty is more of a paddler than a swimmer anyway and although he loves his hydro sessions I think he'd be less comfortable in a pool.
The treadmill sessions would be good for his hips, too, but I can see you are limited with what his elbows can manage. How long have you been doing the hydro?
 
I think in the pool you can maybe get a better non weight bearing range of movement??
Yes, that's probably the case, but I remember the surgeon saying we really didn't want this with Monty's particularly bad elbow, that he would extend it or move it too quickly by swimming and this could be bad. Our physio / rehab vet agreed. Though tbh this was over five years ago so struggling to remember exact details.
 
Doug had no joint issues just mainly lower back circulation and gait problems a hydro pool and swimming was most useful for him. He needed non weight bearing exercise and he really loved to swim. You've just got to find what works best for the dog and their condition. I just glad some much is available now. I relieved that more drugs available too I was very worried about Rory due to his inability to tolerate anti inflammatory medication
 
@Chris - here are a few threads which discuss different options for joint issues. @Loraseal 's boy Hunter has quite severe elbow issues and has had some stem cell therapy - I think - can't find a thread for that, but it's another option you could consider.
As @SwampDonkey says there's a load of options out there - plus laser, acupuncture, phsyio.




 
I can't remember the thread about stem cells but I truly believe the stem cell therapy gave Hunter a couple of years with no serious pain issues. He was a young dog so his puppy stem cells had more juice. Expensive but well worth it.
Saying that we saw an old Boxer with back issues who had great ly improved with stencell .. Of course he could not run but his owner was overjoyed that he could simply wee and have an old smooch around.
I would love to get Hunter to Fitzgerald the super vet. Saying that you have to work out what works best for your dog and need a vet who is open to other ideas. The most important thing for Hunter is weight and floor coverings around the house as we have wooden floors and tiles. We also do hydrotherapy on a treadmill in a tank. There is a site on Facebook CAM and they have great ideas as for equipment to help them.
@Jelinga also has to be careful with Rourke and the type of painkillers he can tolerate.
 
My dog had to stop metacam as it was affecting her kidneys. The vet suggested librela, which is a monoclonal antibody which targets NGF in the body, as reduces pain in the subject, and thus makes it easier for the dog to get around. I was keen on this, as I had been in a human trial for the same type of injection for my own arthritis 2 years ago and it did wonders. I am now waiting the approval of the drug is my own trial. Pixie received her first injection of librela on 20th May, and just like me, she had a very noticeable increase in mobility, and appeared to have much less pain. Her 2nd dose was administered on 17th June, and again the effect was a very noticeable improvement in her walking. I thought I had found the miracle to help my 14 year old dog to have a better quality of life. On 22nd June she developed a cough, which at first was thought to be kennel cough, but subsequently proved to be a cardiac cough. on 28th June she suddenly became unwilling to exercise, was panting heavily, and fainted when she tried to run towards a doggy friend. I managed to get a vet's appointment for the next day. At this stage they still though she had kennel cough, but I was suspicious that the sudden change meant something else was going on. She was given antibiotics, and sent home with me to rest. Over the next few days, her coughing, which only ever happened when she was resting, stopped, but her breathing became increasingly faster. By 4th July (a Sunday) she was refusing to eat, drinking very little, and her breathing was becoming noisy as well as fast. I stayed up with her all night. Early Monday morning (5th July) her tongue turned blue. I immediately phoned the vet, who said to take her straight to them, which took about 10 minutes. At the vets they put her straight on oxygen, while they checked her over. Her lungs and airways were clear, but she was found to be suffering an extremely bad heart arrhythmia. They put her on an IV of something to try and stop the arrhythmia, but despite their best efforts, it could not be stopped, and she remained blue. Within the hour she was euthanised to prevent further suffering, as if left she would have died in agony, because her heart was failing. She has never had any heart problems previously, and at her last health check in late March, I was told that her heart and lungs were sound, and very good for a dog of her age. However, she was beginning to show signs of the metacam affecting her kidneys, and that was stopped. Of course, I cannot be certain that librela was the cause, but she only managed 2 doses, and 18 days after the 2nd dose she was dead. I am now going to refuse to be treated with the human equivalent, when it is licensed later this year. I am sure this would be a very rare case, but I don't think it is worth the risk. I am now heartbroken, and feel like a murderer for allowing Pixie to be treated with librela.
 
Hi Annie, so sorry to hear of your heartbreaking experience and the loss of your Pixie.

You know this, but, despite Pixie’s previous clean bill of health, it is possible that there is no link between the Librela and the heart condition she developed. These things can just be horrible, tragic co-incidences.

You did your level best to make her comfortable, and I myself would absolutely use Librela under the same circumstances.
 
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Hello @Annie B, please don't feel you are a murderer, you were doing your best for Pixie and she did have two months virtually pain free. You don't know for sure whether the drug caused the heart failure. I am so sorry that she died, it is dreadful to lose our beloved dogs.
 
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