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SwampDonkey

SwampDonkey

After his castration he started to smell interesting to boy dogs. All boy dogs even neutered boys try to mount him. She still can't catch him he just runs off. Due to cv19 I do not really do more than say good morning any more. She tries to engage me with and complains about his pulling on his lead and not allowing himself to he caught. I've already given this type of training ideas before and told I'm doing it my way, I'm not so doing it again. All the methods she uses seem cruel to me. HiHe is a nice boy but stunted in growth he's tiny and really lacks focus. He doesn't seem to have made the connection between coming back and having his lead on. She's not really taught him much and he doesn't seem to have a good bond with her
 
SwampDonkey

SwampDonkey

Well I kept my distance watched as he went through a hard time. She still can't catch him and he started to attack her other dog and kids. Her family are bullying her to get rid of him and her silly(being polite) husband thinks she should be firmer do this do that all horrible and counterproductive methods which are cruel. I feel really sorry for this little dog he's been pushed into tight harnesses head collars pulled and shouted at. Being on the lead means pain and frustration he's always on edge and doesn't want to go near his owner when she recalls him. He clearly doesn't understand recall and neither does she. So she comes to me in tears and on her own and again doesn't know what to do. I'm not telling her anything I just listened. He'd stressed and bored. Some of things he's doing are understandable but scarry but we talked about more supervision at these times perhaps a muzzle in the interim and told her she must find him a good kind methods behaviourist. He's getting stressed and excited and herding and nipping like collies do. The kids were fine but she's getting lots of pressure from her family to rehome the dog because he's turned. 🙄she knows she didn't listen to how much stress he was displaying and that she forced him into a situation which made him lash out. I've also tried to explain that he fears her touch and doesn't like being put on the lead but short of saying it's your handling of him you hurt him I have to be careful. I feel so sorry for him but can't explained as she doesn't get it but I do not want her to feel she's got no support
He's so sensitive . A good dog ruined by harshness and lack of understanding.shes not changed her ideas she just keeps doing the same old thing and the dog has to bend. They are not connected.She has contacted a local guy who's suggested muzzle when he's in dangerous situation and he will access him when he can. I'm just venting I'm worried and pi**ed off.
 
Candy

Candy

Biscuit Tin Guardian
Location
West Yorkshire, UK
Poor dog. It's so sad. Joy is a sensitive little dog, who needs gentle handling, but with this she's also such a good girl and so eager to please. I do feel sorry for the collie and it's a difficult and upsetting situation for you too.
 
HAH

HAH

Moderator
Location
Devon, UK
Poor pup. What a sad situation. I can understand you're worried and p**ed off Swampy, not sure what will come of it and makes you think of all the dogs that don't get the compassion and handling they need. Better to focus on showing there are other ways to be.
 
kateincornwall

kateincornwall

Location
Cornwall , UK
What a crying shame , I do feel for you in this sad situation . You know that saying ,You can take a horse to water but cant make it drink ? I reckon this applies here , you are banging your head on a brick wall I`m afraid :headbang: Reuben can be headstrong at times and requires a firm voice but never harsh handling and never ever physical handling , I like him to do my bidding because he wants to , rather than because he is afraid not to . It must be so hard to see the same mistakes being made over and over, poor little dog :sad:
 
SwampDonkey

SwampDonkey

Ashley said:
Ugh, it's so hard to watch and so hard to give advice without being preachy. Hopefully she finds a decent trainer and can learn to bond with him and how to handle him in a kind way. I actually avoid some people because I can't stomach to watch them with their dogs, almost makes me cry.
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Me too. I actually keep away from her now because it's upsetting to watch. If I suggest anything I just get treated like a doggie crank. So I don't but it doesn't do stop me from cringing.
 
Granca

Granca

It’s hard to keep quiet. A friend who was here this afternoon for a while confessed that she doesn’t let her dog off the lead when she‘s out for walks in the local park because the dog has no recall. When it was younger, it once ran off and crossed a busy road into another large area of parkland nearby. So the only outdoors off-lead time the dog has is in the garden, which is a reasonable size, but not particularly big. It’s a very sweet dog, but tends to be a bit moody sometimes.

A possible reason why the dog has no recall is that “Come back please” isn’t very effective... but I wouldn’t dare suggest altenatives!
 
Candy

Candy

Biscuit Tin Guardian
Location
West Yorkshire, UK
Oh, this makes me so sad. He's going to get a reputation for being a 'bad dog' isn't he? None of this is his fault. All she has to do is make herself the most interesting thing in the world to him, and who wouldn't want to be this? (Although I have to admit that a chunk of dead sheep did briefly beat me in the Lake District last week.)
 
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