Angel. Born June 30th.

I feel Ike the answer is no? Her front teeth look pearly white and a bit goofy. Perhaps big teeth?

She's been pretty good about teething, we have tons to chew on....I buy chew sticks in bulk at the vets to avoid resource guarding.

We're working on leash training right now. Teaching her not to go every which way. I have a martingale for her because she started backing our of her collar and harness. I am walking her on the traffic handle, and rewarding each time she checks in or sits.

As we went to start to heading home today I swapped to her harness...she lasted 10seconds before she leaped on shamas head....so it was back on the martingale and traffic handle lol!

Good boy just sidestepped and waited for me to take control of her.

I'm starting with halti and muzzle training just in case we decide to use them later....just Teaching her to put it on for now. She nearly fits shamas old halti and i have a size 4 baskerville I bought by mistake. Couple more growth spurts....given her napping the last few days, I'd say she's having one now.

She'll need new collar and harness soon too.

Appointment for spay is made for mid January

She's big enough now to reach the window sill and look into timmies when I go in. That might help with separation anxiety
 
It's interesting to see the difference between how a normal dog reacts do other dogs and how shamas reacts. She still reacts at the same distance he did at first. About 50feet.

But hers is a forward body language and standing scruff(her scruff stands from head to tail at the slightest excitement) and tail swish. Ears stand up.

I bet at 30feet, she'd start barking.

We stopped her at 50 and lured her to a sit. Then tried for "focus" (look at me) Since we had shamas with us, keeping plenty of space was a good plan anyway. He will just stand and watch it go by at that distance. Unruffled and curious. He is quite content to watch dogs from a good distance.

Pawsitively will start socializing the pups near but not in dog parks once they have a tool box. Right now, they are all learning that off leash time is play time and on leash time is not the time for interaction. We need to ignore the other dogs when leash. Same goes with people
 
Where have her wrinkles gone!!X
They're all in her bum when she stands on her back legs, and her face when she's thinking...but other than that, she's smoothing out.

I ran her current stats through an estimator and came up with a probable 120lbs full size. Talked to the breeder, who corrected me, saying that the sire is 130lb, and momma is 90lb. Which shocked me because hse's just little---Angel's just about the same size as momma now. Must be the Shephard/rottie mom making her so heavy--all that muscle.

Angel's classmates are convinced she's got ridgeback in there---here hair stands from neck to tail every time she gets excited. Not like hackles...just stands on end. Given that momma's a reservation rescue...she could have anything. One of the pups owners did DNA testing and found AKITA, Corso, Shephard as their pups dominant breeds. The mom's owner didn't know about the Akita.

Angel shows Dane dominant, with Shephard and Corso shifting for second. Then there's the ridge thing....but that might be a feature of excitement. Her personality is submissive/outgoing/friendly/curious. If something throws her, we simply stop and let her look at it. She almost always looks at it on her own.

I had to turn off the lawnmower one day because someone let her out while I was cutting the lawn. Instead of fleeing inside, she started running circles around it and barking at it. I wasn't sure if she was playing or testing it...so I had her taken inside while I worked. Then I left it on the lawn for her to check out
 
Angel graduated puppy school yesterday :)

She was voted "Most Spirited" LOL!

Which is fitting, as near the end of class, I ran out of treats, and she decided to play, and yell at the top of her lungs instead of laying nicely on her mat like she normally does. "Orr Rooor Roow!" like a full sized Dane, while the teacher's explaining why retractable leashes are dangerous. And why harnesses are suggested for pullers. and no tool will stop bad behavior--they can only MANAGE the dog, so YOU can teach them to behave better.

All the puppies except Angel are on harnesses...Angel gets out of harnesses. I've asked my dad if he's got the one I bought him for Toby--that should fit her now.

I like the Martingale because as the dog walks more and more on loose leash, they become aware of the changes in the collar. a tiny flick of the wrist can send a signal down the leash. For sensitive dogs, I find this useful.

and since I'm not concerned with preventing pulling, but rather with teaching, and preventing escape while I do..it's the perfect tool for me. If she pulls, I stop until she slacks the leash. If she backs up...she's not getting out of her collar. I'm happy
 

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It's great that you and Angel have graduated from puppy school Congratulations! :clap::dug:

All the puppies except Angel are on harnesses...Angel gets out of harnesses. I've asked my dad if he's got the one I bought him for Toby--that should fit her now.

I like the Martingale because as the dog walks more and more on loose leash, they become aware of the changes in the collar. a tiny flick of the wrist can send a signal down the leash. For sensitive dogs, I find this useful.
I also recommend harness or flat collar and lead in my puppy group. I teach relaxed lead walking by training the puppies to walk in the position we want them to be in which is by our side. It is very difficult to teach relaxed lead walking with a martingale collar as they put pressure on the dogs neck. This is why I don't recommend martingale collars in any of my classes.

There are some great harnesses out there which would probably suit Angel as she gets bigger, and that would be difficult for her to wriggle out. Copenhagen is a good one plus the Ruffwear Webmaster is another great harness for dogs that can slip out of them. Another question to ask is why is Angel getting out of harnesses? What is the context?
 
It's great that you and Angel have graduated from puppy school Congratulations! :clap::dug:



Another question to ask is why is Angel getting out of harnesses? What is the context?
Angel has a very deep chest, and a thin body, shoulders and neck---resulting in a bad fit on the harness. Think Doberman. Plus, she's growing so fast, she's got to have it adjusted weekly. SO it never seems to fit right. I've tried three different harnesses so far, and each one fits badly no matter how we adjust it...it's either too big on the neck, or too loose on the chest, resulting in her slipping it when she gets determined to go somewhere we don't want her to be.

On the one walk, I actually clipped the leash to both the harness and the collar by way of carabina clips...and she nearly slipped both by backing up.

What it would take in a harness to prevent slipping is something that can be adjusted to a snug fit on both the neck and ribs.....and probably long enough to add a second tummy strap, like Shamas' tactical vest.

If she hadn't eaten Shamas' Perfect Fit, I'd use that on her...but I'm not dropping another $89+shipping to try it on her when she's not my dog. I've already spent a good $600 on this dog between gear, treats, training, and an emergency vet trip


It is very difficult to teach relaxed lead walking with a martingale collar as they put pressure on the dogs neck
Can you elaborate here? I've used Martingales in training for Shamas and for Angel...specifically because they can't slip them. But I think I use them "backwards" to the intended purpose? I fit the martingales to the size of the dogs' neck when pulled tight, so that it's more like a necklace when loose. My goal is for a collar they can't slip, not a corrective collar. So when she hits the end of the leash, I stop. I stay put until she drops leash ressure-usually by sitting, then we move again. If she backs up, the collar is snug under her chin, and she can't back out of it...whereas a standard flat collar slides over the ears with enough pressure applied.
I find that Shamas struggles on a flat collar, but responds better to cues on Martingale---the exception being the nice 2inch wide flat collar I found him recently--he walks nicely on that :)
 
Primrose was able to slip harnesses, the classic being she was on her mat in training class on loose leash and i didn't notice she quietly backed out of it and was eating a stick behind me and the trainer noticed before I did! The carabiner did work, so it seems like Angel must be pulling out quite hard to get through both collar and leash (are these tight enough?) I now have the Pet Safe 3 in 1 for certain walks (it has a back clip to trail her long line). It's fairly cheap and can tighten on neck and chest snuggly. I know you say Angel isn't your dog (but you are training and walking her?) so that might be an affordable option through Amazon (and some pet stores - they go on sale).
 
Primrose was able to slip harnesses, the classic being she was on her mat in training class on loose leash and i didn't notice she quietly backed out of it and was eating a stick behind me and the trainer noticed before I did! The carabiner did work, so it seems like Angel must be pulling out quite hard to get through both collar and leash (are these tight enough?) I now have the Pet Safe 3 in 1 for certain walks (it has a back clip to trail her long line). It's fairly cheap and can tighten on neck and chest snuggly. I know you say Angel isn't your dog (but you are training and walking her?) so that might be an affordable option through Amazon (and some pet stores - they go on sale).
The one I like is very similar to petsafe. I am actually going to check on Christmas to see if my dad still has the one I gave him last year for his dog. I think angel will fit it now.

For the record, I'm not training her alone. Amanda is training her too. That's my daughter, and her owner. She's doing fairly well but this being her first dog and a large breed puppy to boot...we want to make sure she gets a good start in life.

The last thing we want is a 120lb, unsocialized, poorly trained dane mix
 
Angel's getting bigger by the week. She's had another growth spurt, this one brings her to shamas size. She's now wearing a harness I bought for shamas that was too big for him due to his slim chest. Her chest is deep so it's not a bad fit....bit loose in the chest but good in neck and girth.

We have a gate in the back hall now, as she garbage and counter surfs if left unsupervised. It's high enough to let cats under but not quite enough for her to squeeze under....though she tried lol. We put her in the hall when we go to work or are otherwise unable to supervise. 20211214_222354.jpg16397073192634779538747048910548.jpg1639707374506844856669214981727.jpgthe hall opens to the bathroom and her mistress bedroom. We generally close the bathroom door, because I'm opposed to dogs drinking from toilets. The bedroom door is left open to leave access to her bed and food
 

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