The vets again !!!

I consider myself really lucky as our vet practice they do all their patient emergencies and weekend emergencies. Charlie was admitted on a Saturday evening the vet met us there, Charlie stayed for the rest of the weekend with a nurse staying on site looking after him 24 hours. I know some people have to travel to Winchester for out of hours with their vets.

Hope it all works out Jen xx
 
@MaccieD I'm weighing up the same thing Rosemary. I've googled Petmedics and I don't think it would be feasible to get S&S there in an emergency it's practically Manchester which is a good hour away. S&S don't travel well anyway and if the emergency involved pain and stress already it could be a nightmare. However do I just risk it ? I guess I need to see what the vet is like and maybe discuss it with her. The vets I've been warned off would actually be much more convenient. It sounds a similar set up to the one Kate @Beanwood uses. They have three small branches one being about ten minutes away and a large hospital branch where emergencies and ops are done probably only about 15 mins away. Coincidentally the large branch has been there a long time although under a different name my dad used them when we kept pigs. I did contact them when my mobile vet first stopped as the small local branch is only open a few hours a day and knowing where it is I thought there might be a chance it's relatively quiet. I know the local kennels uses them and the chap I meet walking with his Doberman thinks they are good but then I've also heard some not so good stuff although nothing worse than I'm experiencing now. Maybe a visit to the small branch might be a good idea just to see how busy it is if nothing else.

While in Tesco this morning I got thinking why has Hillary suddenly changed her tune? When she rang to give me Scott's original test results back in June everything had come back fine. Kidneys, bladder etc all working normally urine culture clear, bloods clear. She didn't mention his urine too being dilute. When I asked why he was still doing a massive wee her first answer was its hot so drinking more then it's rare but could be diabetes insipidus. Either way job done case closed. Now all of a sudden, weeks later she's trying to get his urine to concentrate. If Mr Boss hadn't bothered looking at Scott's notes or I'd taken Scott to Hillary or even a different vet this wouldn't be happening. :unsure: A question for Hillary I think when she presumably rings next week with the next lot of urine results.

On a positive note two doses of antibiotics and they already seem to be working. Scott did his toileting this morning. Scout gave Scott's bottom a cursory sniff then Scott gave his own bottom a cursory sniff neither interested and we carried on our way. Thank God !!!
 
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Oh well the good sounding vets doesn't want us. How rude ! :eek: No apparently they are so busy they decided 12 months ago to only take on new clients who are local. Fair enough but they don't know what they are missing.;) I guess that just leaves the vets I've heard good and not so good things about. I think a visit and a chat is in order.
 
Are there more straightforward and definitive tests for the conditions they’re trying to assess for with the urine test? All this stuff with the urine seems to be a bit like a stab in the dark and a lot of effort for a vague answer....

Glad to hear that bottoms seems to be less interesting today!
 
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Are there more straightforward and definitive tests for the conditions they’re trying to assess for with the urine test? All this stuff with the urine seems to be a bit like a stab in the dark and a lot of effort for a vague answer....

Glad to hear that bottoms seems to be less interesting today!
Unfortunately Rachael the test for diabetes insipidus would be very difficult to do with Scott. They have the dog in, take a urine sample, withhold water then take urine samples through the day to see if it's getting more concentrated. As Scott won't let them near him unless I'm hold of him or he's knocked out it looks impossible. The test for Cushings isn't much better. Blood test, injection of cortisol (I think) then another blood test four hours later. I can't remember which way around it is but whatever's happened to the cortisol gives a definite yes or no for Cushings. :confused: The urine stuff seems like a stab in the dark to me too especially as back in June Hillary didn't seem concerned when all the tests came back clear.
 
The thought had crossed my mind @Jelinga when DI was first mentioned and I googled it but I assumed a sterile sample would be needed. Now you've mentioned it though it might be worth suggesting because thinking about it there's no need for the sample to be sterile it's only being tested for it's specific gravity. I am some what of a dab hand at collecting samples now or should that be damp hand.:LOL: Thanks Jelinga it's a great idea.
 
@Emily I'm liking that idea:D. It's not so bad with male dogs except the sample pots the vet provides are the size of a test tube. I got some disposable plastic cups to decant from. I figured they must be sterile to some extent as they are for drinking and cheap enough to be binned. Scott isn't bothered he'll happily fill up anything but Scout freaks out at the noise and stops mid flow. o_O
 
Just catching up with this. It's a great shame if you don't have confidence in your vet and I would certainly be tempted to change.

Many years ago when our first dog, a cairn terrier, had a skin condition, I changed vets because as at one point I was left outside the surgery with a dog bleeding heavily after an internal examination and just handed a wad of paper towels! The receptionists then were a force to be reckoned with! So I went instead to a vet in the next town, about a twenty minute drive away. We stayed with that (lovely) practice for many years until finally the second partner retired and it was taken over... by the original practice that I'd been to where I live! At that point I decided to give it another go, as it was probably better to take the animals locally, rather than a few miles away, to see the same vets. Fortunately the old regime was no more and things had completely changed!

It's never easy dealing with a potentially sick animal, so it would be worth trying elsewhere, even with a longer journey, if the service is better. At least you wouldn't be kept waiting and wondering. I hope you get some answers soon.
 
Latest update on Scott's waterworks.:rolleyes: I took a second sample of salty urine to the vets this morning as requested by Hillary. She rang this afternoon. No change.:confused: I didn't think there would be. Scott's urine is still dilute. Hillary has therefore decided he has diabetes insipidus or psychogenic polydipsia. As it's Scott I can believe it could be psychogenic polydipsia. In otherwords he just likes drinking. Scott loves to lick. He just loves it to the point of obsession if you let him. Thankfully not himself. When he drinks Scott has always looked like he's playing with the water. He laps up the side of the bowl making a terrific mess and can get quite mesmerised. Either way I have to treat it like diabetes insipidus and be careful of dehydration. Hillary suggested putting a pinch of sea salt in the water as an electrolyte. All of this she basically told me back in June when the kidney tests came back clear. I can only assume because boss vet got involved she thought she should have a go again. I asked why it couldn't be Cushings. She told me because "he isn't a Cushings type dog." Cushings dogs are usually overweight apparently. Hillary did say she'd like to rule it out properly but it would be impossible because as soon as she looks at Scott his cortisol levels will shoot sky high and he'd test positive even if he wasn't. Unfortunately no definitive result but I'm hoping that's it now no more messing about with wee.:p

Unforunately we have developed another problem. Two doses of antibiotics left for Scott's possible anal gland issue and they've both got very interested in Scott's back end again after he's :poop: !!! I don't think it can be the infection if he's still on the antibiotics. My theory, although far fetched, is salt. It's the common denominator both times. After a week of eating salt Scott's back end becomes irresistible !!! I mentioned this theory to Hillary. The phone went quiet for quite awhile. She couldn't think why it should be salt but told me to stop salt for a week to see. She doesn't want to give him anymore antibiotics so suggested I squirt Scott's bottom with bitter apple spray to put them off !!! Surely that would sting.o_O
 
This just sounds like they don't have a clue. It would worry me I know you dogs are difficult to work with but this situation is very unsatisfactory. Squirting bitter apple up his bum? I think that would be one step beyond for me.im so sorry you're having such rough time with your lovely boys xxx
 
This just sounds like they don't have a clue. It would worry me I know you dogs are difficult to work with but this situation is very unsatisfactory. Squirting bitter apple up his bum? I think that would be one step beyond for me.im so sorry you're having such rough time with your lovely boys xxx
I agree it isn't very satisfactory. I know vets have to use an educated guess a lot of the time but I think this is a big educated guess. They've tested for the obvious though I suppose and the results were all clear. As for Scott's bottom I won't be using bitter apple spray on it. I will have a go with the anal gland wipes and fingers crossed. If it goes on longer than a week I will start pestering again.:rolleyes:
 
This just sounds like they don't have a clue. It would worry me I know you dogs are difficult to work with but this situation is very unsatisfactory. Squirting bitter apple up his bum? I think that would be one step beyond for me.im so sorry you're having such rough time with your lovely boys xxx
I agree it isn't very satisfactory. I know vets have to use an educated guess a lot of the time but I think this is a big educated guess. They've tested for the obvious though I suppose and the results were all clear. As for Scott's bottom I won't be using bitter apple spray on it. I will have a go with the anal gland wipes and fingers crossed. If it goes on longer than a week I will start pestering again.:rolleyes:
 
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