Torn Toe nail

Shamas has torn a toenail....right down to the bone, the vet says. He quoted $275 to fix it, but Shamas doesn't like him, and growled in his face.....so I'm taking him to our other vet this afternoon to get it done. Going to cost me a pretty penny at the end, I think. Firth is NOT cheap, but they are understanding, and will respect Shamas when he shows clear fear signals like hiding, tucking tail licking, and leaning on Dad. Grabbing his foot and pulling while he was cornered was a bad idea on the vet's part.....Shamas has NEVER expressed aggressive tendencies toward humans, but I'm not surprised he did given the vet's very forward behavior while he is in pain.

I'm going to pay another $80 this afternoon for pre-op with another vet, and probably a fair bit more than $275 for the op......but I'll gladly do it for a vet that Shamas isnt afraid of
 

HAH

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Devon, UK
You poor thing @Shamas mom , and poor Shamas - that must be stressful for you and painful for Shamas. Hoping it’s dealt with as well as you’d like by your other vet, sounds like the right person for the job (y)
 
Oh dear, that sounds horrible all round! Willow pulled a nail completely off once, and partially tore one another time. The first time, her whole quick was exposed and bled for a few weeks whenever it got wet. The vet told us just to keep it clean and dry (as much as possible when it's winter in a ski resort) so we used Pawz rubber boots and washed it after every walk. In time, the quick withered back and a new nail grew. The partial one was in some ways worse than the one that was completely ripped off, because it kept catching on things.

I wouldn't worry about the growling, it's not aggression, it's communication. It's just like telling someone to back off when they're invading your personal space, nothing more. All of us have a point where we'll change from polite requests to being a bit more forceful, and that was Shamas' point. I'm sorry the vet was so unpleasant with him.
 
I’m interested to know why an op is needed? Snowie tore his dew clew. Kind of split it in half. There was blood. I cut off some of it to prevent catching on things. It healed in time. It didn’t cross my mind to see a vet. I’ve ripped my own fingernail and just put a plaster on it.

Hope Shamas’s nail heals quickly.
 
Oh dear. :sad:

Homer has broken the same nail off for the third time. The first time he was in a lot of pain so I rushed him off to the vet. The next time was when he scratched through his dog sitters door when there was thunder. It looked like it was healing nicely, the vet checked it. I was eventually able to trim the rough broken edge then about two weeks ago I noticed that the nail had come off completely. It hasn’t bothered him so I haven’t bothered with taking him to the vet again.
 

Jacqui-S

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Fife, Scotland
Ouchy!

We have one vet I don't like and doesn't seem to have a clue how to handle Lilly - he is the older chap in the practice which shouldn't be the case IMHO. The others are all fine, but the younger ones are so much nicer and seem to be so much better at people communication as well as doggy comms.
 
I'm with MF - why an operation?

Xena gets the odd split claw. The first one the vet just pulled off (not the whole claw, just the broken bit) and now when they get a bit torn I just tug it off gently, no drama. Maybe the other clinic will say that he won't need an operation?
 
Shamas is doing very well today. The second ver was much better, as I had thought they'd be. They triaged me over phone, and got me in by 4pm.

The first vet had said that he'd need the split part removed under aenesthaetic because it was split to the bone and was very painful. He indicated that it could even cause infected or bruised bone tissue and was an emergency case. I'd need pain meds, and Shamas would need to be operated on to remove the split section of nail. It needed to be done right away because he was in pain. (this vet also has a reputation in my area for trying to get as much money out of people as possible, but he's cheap and conveniently located for emergencies) His invoices always include three or four things DECLINED, making me feel bad. Yesterday it was Metacam...yup, I came home reading an invoice that said I refused pain meds for a dog in pain. I didn't, It was mentioned that he needed them and then then the conversation went straight onto the antibiotics he wanted to put him on for the removal of the claw(I couldn't figure out why he'd need antibiotics, and THAT took a couple of minutes to explain)The whole time I'm getting flustered, Hubby annoyed, and Shamas more upset. then he grabs Shamas' leg to clip the claw, which he doesn't like. He hides beside dad to get away from the vet and now he's cornered. Vet grabs his leg again, not letting go this time and "growl......"

Wee decided on the way home that if indeed shamas DID need this operation, he was going to a vet that was not so forward. He didn't have any warning, and his tail tucked the minute the vet walked in the room.

At 4, we arrived at Firth, but we were waiting for the records from the morning to transfer over. The thing I like about Firth is they have a second waiting lounge....so when Shamas went over threshold at the arrival of a large, fearful dog, we were quickly ushered behind the closed glass doors, where we had an impromptu training session. I brought him out to see the puppy in mother's arm's when the waiting room was quiet again. At that point he was back below threshold and only wagging his tail. Calm, but letting out the occasional cry after a long look into the waiting room.

The appointment went very well- his nail hair was trimmed right back to the wick, to reveal that his nail is not as badly damaged as we thought....so it was filed, and we're to watch it, and put a sock on at night to avoid snagging. She didn't want to bandage it in our current wet weather, as that could cause an infection rather than prevent one. We're to watch it until it grows out.
The lump on his shoulder is still "wait and watch" 1cm, movable, not concerning
The lump under his belly is unconcerning- a hernia of the type puppies get, now evident because of his looser muscles
The changes in skin tones on his belly- just black spots. Maybe he's got some Shephard in him? Would also accoult for his black spots on his tongue
His weight is perfect at 69lbs

After the appointment, there was a small, hyper dog in the waiting room and Shamas went over threshold again. I quickly shut our door and the staff moved the other dog to the lounge this time. Shamas behaved well while I paid and I bought him a rawhide stick

I called the first vet this morning, updated his status, and had them put a note on his file to take it slow with him in the future. I won't always be able to get to Firth(transportation issues), and I don't want Shamas to fear Dr Rupee(he's within walking distance) permanently. so I'll only have him do routine things for a while.
 
Well yay, I'm very glad to hear that he didn't need surgery. I suppose the first vet is fine for your run of the mill vaccinations etc, but I'd be loathe to go for anything potentially serious. There are many vets who are only in it for the money (said by my vet friend) and there are others who genuinely love animals. Sounds like your regular vet is the former.
 
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