Time to say goodbye

Beanwood

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@Shamas mom, I don't understand, why did you need to inform animal control? Can you link your vet up with them? Your vet has the medical and behaviour history of Shamas so this would be supporting evidence for alternative measures to keep Shamas safe. You might just need a bit of headspace time to think things through and work on a plan of action moving forward.

I am wondering, would re-homing be a better step for Shamas, can you contact local organisations, I am sure your vet would be on your side with this. Just throwing this out there, I am sure you have probably considered this option.

Is your canine behaviourist a vet behaviourist also, as any medication would be prescription only, might be worth checking!
 
@Shamas mom, I don't understand, why did you need to inform animal control? Can you link your vet up with them? Your vet has the medical and behaviour history of Shamas so this would be supporting evidence for alternative measures to keep Shamas safe. You might just need a bit of headspace time to think things through and work on a plan of action moving forward.

I am wondering, would re-homing be a better step for Shamas, can you contact local organisations, I am sure your vet would be on your side with this. Just throwing this out there, I am sure you have probably considered this option.

Is your canine behaviourist a vet behaviourist also, as any medication would be prescription only, might be worth checking!
Animal control needed to be informed because of the open case involving him attacking a dog walking with her owner someone had broken down our fence and as a result he escaped the yard during his morning pee.

If he had been put down as planned, the matter would have been over. I was under instructions to inform them when he was put down

As it stands, I face the possibility of charges for my dog being "at large" and he's registered as a high risk another attack.

The only way he could be rehomed is if he were rehoming into the care of a trained handler who understands the risks.

He's to be put on medication and "managed" muzzled and trained. I'm sure I'll be spending an absolute fortune on private sessions in the near future. Because I want to get back to being able to walk my dog again without him cowering and running home at the first loud noise
 
I think this should definitely still be an option for him (and you).
My husband won't even consider it. Either we're all in, or we say goodbye to him as a loved member of the family.

When he was at his worst, and we didn't feel that he had a chance at quality of life.....when he was "not all there" and afraid of the puppy, and not recognising us all the time....we made the decision to say goodbye to him as a family member. locked in the living room, afraid of family members, and muzzled when he leaves his safe space is no way to spend a life.


But the last couple of days, he's showing interest, interacting with the puppy, playing, eating, and asking to go outside. When the vet came over and said he wouldn't do it...I wasn't upset. I mean it was hard, because we'd prepared...but the closer we got, the more we wanted to back out. We poured so much into Shamas. He's not a dog I'd suggest for any first time owner. He should have gone to an experienced dog person. But you guys helped me SO MUCH with him. And the result was he went from falling apart if he SAW a dog...to crossing the street and passing by. He was doing SO well!
but after the attack, he regressed so badly, I didn't think I'd be able to recover him. He was even afraid of his own backyard. he had to be taken out by hubby to pee. on a 4foot leash. Then he'd run in. When I took him to the vet, a truck rolled by, and he jumped back in the cab and cowered...I had to get them to drive 1/2 block down the street before I could coax him out. Then he cowered behind the vet building. That's the vet that told me medication is an option, but it takes a long time to get in the system....and looking at him in that state, I didn't think it was fair to keep him like that.......his breathing was laboured, and he was terrified of EVERYTHING.

The bite investigator says we can keep him, he trusts us to do the right thing. He's not going to lay charges right now...but if the owner of the other dog comes complaining later, he'll have to. I'm to muzzle Shamas to leave the house. Which I'm doing anyway. Less because of me, or because he's mean...and more because with his fear issues, if I were to trip and fall he might react to protect me and then they'd have to step in and act.

The fact that I reported my own dog for attacking...that I paid the other dogs vet bills as well as the owner's day's wage so she could take her in...that I had the fence fixed before the weekend was over...that I already have him and the puppy arranged to start with a behaviorist.....the bite investigator's not concerned with this dog. This dog's obviously cared for.
 
The fact that I reported my own dog for attacking...that I paid the other dogs vet bills as well as the owner's day's wage so she could take her in...that I had the fence fixed before the weekend was over...that I already have him and the puppy arranged to start with a behaviorist.....the bite investigator's not concerned with this dog. This dog's obviously cared for.
The investigator sounds very reasonable. I hope you can work through this and get Shamas back to being less afraid again. It’s such a shame that all this has blown up just because some thoughtless (idiot) person broke down your fence. Everything crossed for you here. :hug: :thelambiesarecoming:
 
The fact that I reported my own dog for attacking...that I paid the other dogs vet bills as well as the owner's day's wage so she could take her in...that I had the fence fixed before the weekend was over...that I already have him and the puppy arranged to start with a behaviorist.....the bite investigator's not concerned with this dog. This dog's obviously cared for.
I absolutely wasn’t implying that he isn’t!
I simply stated that rehoming shouldn’t be dismissed straight away, as per Kate’s comment above.
 
I absolutely wasn’t implying that he isn’t!
I simply stated that rehoming shouldn’t be dismissed straight away, as per Kate’s comment above.
I know you didn't. I never "heard that"

Please keep in mind that I'm typing almost as fast as I think during this...I'm here because you people have supported me for the whole time I have had Shamas. I'm not quick to take offense.

Apparently I'm having trouble with my own emotions in the back yard....I had myself a mental rant while mowing the lawn. Ended up coming inside for my mental well-being. It's not good for me to sit here ranting in my head all the things I'd like to say to the individuals that tore down my fence, and broke down the barrier preventing the dogs from going behind the shed. TWO barriers were taken down to release the dogs. and with Beware of dogs signs well posted too. I'm still very angry
 
I really really feel for you and how difficult this all is. I know (with all Homers anxiety issues) how difficult it can be to manage your own anxiety, as well as all the humans around you, to support Shamus. Big hugs and know that we are all here to support you as best we can.:hug::hug::hug:

:ninja: And a big karma karate chop to the teeth of the i&/@ts who broke down your fence.
 
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You probably feel like you can’t take any more right now, that you have absolutely nothing left in the tank… You’ve been through the mill.

It is good to hear that Shamas is showing some positive interest in things around him, the last couple of days.

I hope that maybe you feel like you can take a little breather, or at least defer any decisions for a little bit. Hope you are getting some sleep.
 
You probably feel like you can’t take any more right now, that you have absolutely nothing left in the tank… You’ve been through the mill.

It is good to hear that Shamas is showing some positive interest in things around him, the last couple of days.

I hope that maybe you feel like you can take a little breather, or at least defer any decisions for a little bit. Hope you are getting some sleep.
I'm struggling to eat, but I am sleeping.

Tried to resume walking with shamas because he can't continue without walks....to be honest, the isolation period post-bite is probably why the vet saw the calm, happy dog he did....he's had no dog exposure in a week


So what happens? This woman with a 2lb something that could honestly pass off as a rat....walks right toward us. Shamas goes wild, and she stops ten feet away to let her rat thing stand and bark at him! So I'm struggling with 75lbs of raging labrador and she's like...nothing! Not even an attempt at removing it. She was STILL standing there when I finally got him turned around and leaving. Took both collar a harness to turn him.


I'm seriously considering getting him the scariest looking muzzle I can find. Then putting a patch on his harness

DOG Aggressive


Maybe then people would stop walking right up to me with their Aggressive little untrained yappy things!!
 

Atemas

UK Tour Guide
with their Aggressive little untrained yappy things
We have our share of those around here - there’s now a glut of them in our village since the start of the pandemic.

How about a bright yellow lead with reactive on it and vest? At least people have fair warning to stay a distance. Sorry if this is no helpful - I really feel your pain and know you are doing everything possible
 
We have our share of those around here - there’s now a glut of them in our village since the start of the pandemic.

How about a bright yellow lead with reactive on it and vest? At least people have fair warning to stay a distance. Sorry if this is no helpful - I really feel your pain and know you are doing everything possible

He was already wearing reflecive tags on his vest that say ' Nervous " and a vynal muzzle.

I'm all for going more obvious if someone wants to link me to the appropriate products. This isn't the first time someone closed in on use while I tried to retreat. I'm just shocked someone would do it with a snack sized dog....if I lost control.....there'd be no saving that thing
 
I agree, but I do have the exception to the rule here :mmm:
You can always tell the trained little dogs...they're such happy things, trotting along at masters heels. :)

The ones that rile me are the ones that don't bother because after all....what damage can a 3lb teacup do? So their untrained menaces lunge and bark, and bite people. But if I let mine do that....oh he'd be a menace to society. A threat to all around him. And rightly so. Because my dog can do serious damage. And those small dogs.......well don't discount them either---it Hurts when chihuahuas latch onto your thighs and hang on to you for the sin of......get this....walking by. Just ask my husband. It was his leg ripped open for trying to enter tom Horton's
 
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