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Food for thought that is for sure! Thanks everyone for your personal experiences.
Coming off Suprelorin
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Hi,
I saw that some of those posting here had problems with a testosterone surge after the implant wore off. My dog is going nuts and was never like this before the implant - so much overt sexual behavior, whining and howling and running off when off lead. Can anyone tell me if they had anything similar how long it lasted. It's been weeks already and I am worried it won't calm down.
Thanks so much in advance!
I saw that some of those posting here had problems with a testosterone surge after the implant wore off. My dog is going nuts and was never like this before the implant - so much overt sexual behavior, whining and howling and running off when off lead. Can anyone tell me if they had anything similar how long it lasted. It's been weeks already and I am worried it won't calm down.
Thanks so much in advance!
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Hi Annie and welcome. @Beanwood had more of an experience of this with her Benson than I did with Shadow (unless I've blocked it out 
) as he's pretty clueless about sex. It does sound unusual for it to have been going on for weeks, though. Might it be worth a chat with your vet, even if just over the phone?
) as he's pretty clueless about sex. It does sound unusual for it to have been going on for weeks, though. Might it be worth a chat with your vet, even if just over the phone?
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@Annie mine is absolute bonkers.
No recall, sniffing everywhere, pulling, humping anything.
It is so bad that he had another injection last week. We tried for 2 months but he hurt his elbows the other week due to humping a large black Labrador. I was hoping the 3 year mark would help but no such luck.
What does your vet think?
No recall, sniffing everywhere, pulling, humping anything.
It is so bad that he had another injection last week. We tried for 2 months but he hurt his elbows the other week due to humping a large black Labrador. I was hoping the 3 year mark would help but no such luck.
What does your vet think?
Beanwood
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Hi Annie, yes it may have been me! I found that when Benson came off the suprelorin we did have a bit of trouble managing some of the returning sexual behaviours as the receptors become once again receptive to testosterone.
Couple of things were happening, the rise of testosterone I think in itself was disconcerting for Benson, a bit like reliving adolescence, which in effect he was doing. I also think he lost a bit of resilience in self-management, as he became "flooded" for want of a better description.
Secondly, we were unfortunate in the fact that locally, the bitches in season were around here like buses, and even though we area able to walk in very quiet areas, it seemed like every man and his bitch had the same idea!
. Really baaaaaad timing!We then decided to get the lad castrated, as life was proving a bit challenging for him, my nerves were also suffering somewhat. I also like to have the odd comfy cushion on the sofa.. if you get my drift!
Interestingly Benson does have a little testosterone, as the implant shuts all the receptors down, and some parts of the body do produce just a little of the hormone. It seems just enough to keep things ticking over, he hasn't put on weight, he looks in far better condition both physically and mentally than when he was on the implant.
Am still waiting for a reply from the vet, but I think it may be calming slightly with some renewed training. Have been treating him like he was a puppy again and that has tempered it slightly. I also looked up foods that slow testosterone and found that flax seed is supposed to help so I put a teaspoon of that in his food daily and the last few days have been slightly better. I'll give it a bit more time as i wasn't that keen on what the implant did as he lost interest in other dogs. I'll keep you posted as it's early days on any improvement!!
Thanks for the advice. I totally understand why you would take that route - it is exhausting! I think the last few days/maybe a week has been better but I'm going to wait and see. Fingers crossed! And thanks for your kind reply.Hi Annie, yes it may have been me! I found that when Benson came off the suprelorin we did have a bit of trouble managing some of the returning sexual behaviours as the receptors become once again receptive to testosterone.
Couple of things were happening, the rise of testosterone I think in itself was disconcerting for Benson, a bit like reliving adolescence, which in effect he was doing. I also think he lost a bit of resilience in self-management, as he became "flooded" for want of a better description.
Secondly, we were unfortunate in the fact that locally, the bitches in season were around here like buses, and even though we area able to walk in very quiet areas, it seemed like every man and his bitch had the same idea!
We then decided to get the lad castrated, as life was proving a bit challenging for him, my nerves were also suffering somewhat. I also like to have the odd comfy cushion on the sofa.. if you get my drift!
Interestingly Benson does have a little testosterone, as the implant shuts all the receptors down, and some parts of the body do produce just a little of the hormone. It seems just enough to keep things ticking over, he hasn't put on weight, he looks in far better condition both physically and mentally than when he was on the implant.
when i say lost interest - I mean 'all interest' - just stopped playing completely
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So after many weeks of coming off the Superlorin and weeks of madness (including Hunter and my son nearly taken out by a cyclist) we have decided that his boyz are going to have to go. This has been a 2 year + and very difficult decision to make and I feel bloody awful about it. His elbows and left back knee are not improving and I joke not, there are 6 young bitches in heat at the moment. It is an on lead walk nightmare for him and us. No focus at all, thinks he is a sex God and has also become very dominant.
He is booked in for tomorrow. I know deep down that this is the best for my boy in the long run but it was a very difficult decision to make.
He is booked in for tomorrow. I know deep down that this is the best for my boy in the long run but it was a very difficult decision to make.
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It will be a huge weight off his mind.So after many weeks of coming off the Superlorin and weeks of madness (including Hunter and my son nearly taken out by a cyclist) we have decided that his boyz are going to have to go. This has been a 2 year + and very difficult decision to make and I feel bloody awful about it. His elbows and left back knee are not improving and I joke not, there are 6 young bitches in heat at the moment. It is an on lead walk nightmare for him and us. No focus at all, thinks he is a sex God and has also become very dominant.
He is booked in for tomorrow. I know deep down that this is the best for my boy in the long run but it was a very difficult decision to make.
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In this house it's the goddess that's the worst. She was meeping all night long, while Shadow was oblivious, snoozing away on our bed
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@snowbunny Ginny you're a tart 
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Yes @kateincornwall I didn't want to add my decision to your current feed about Reuben as I did not want to upset you. I have changed my mind so many times. The vet knows this was difficult for me and how nervous Hunter will be. I am allowed to stay with him (with face mask) whilst he gets his anesthetic.
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You would not upset me , honestly . I have shed many tears over my lovely boy , and like you have thought and more thought until I cant sleep at night . We can only do whats best for our dogs, each case is different and so must be treated so . I`m glad you can stay with Hunter whilst he goes under the GA , good luck for tomorrow xx
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Don’t feel bad about it!! You have thought this over and over to a point that you made this decision, it is a good decision!! Thinking of you tomorrow!!So after many weeks of coming off the Superlorin and weeks of madness (including Hunter and my son nearly taken out by a cyclist) we have decided that his boyz are going to have to go. This has been a 2 year + and very difficult decision to make and I feel bloody awful about it. His elbows and left back knee are not improving and I joke not, there are 6 young bitches in heat at the moment. It is an on lead walk nightmare for him and us. No focus at all, thinks he is a sex God and has also become very dominant.
He is booked in for tomorrow. I know deep down that this is the best for my boy in the long run but it was a very difficult decision to make.
Beanwood
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Hey @Loraseal! The hardest bit is making the decision. If it helps at all, castrated Benson is different from Benson on Superlorin. The reason I think is the implant switches of all the receptors which produce testosterone whilst castration only removes the hormone produced by the testes. The gradual reduction in circulation testosterone is I think easier on the dog. Benson is great, yes he still knows a bitch is in season locally, but at least my nerves are intact, and it is manageable. He is such a happier lad now.
I had a Superlorin implant into Bingley some time ago and I think now that he has had three. I have now left him without an implant and am watching him gradually change in behaviour. He was humping Diesel a couple of days ago which is the first sign that he is regaining his joie de vivre. He has also been louder than normal telling me that people are at the door. Otherwise he’s just as well behaved and gentle as usual. Not shown any interest in disappearing after bitches but of course that might happen. He’s been slightly more sniffy and exploring of Pickle but she’s very clear that it’s not welcome.